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31#
发表于 2007-9-16 08:29:00 | 只看该作者
support A
32#
发表于 2007-10-7 21:56:00 | 只看该作者

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[此贴子已经被作者于2007-10-7 22:12:58编辑过]
33#
发表于 2007-10-7 22:12:00 | 只看该作者
A消防所能够跟踪私人电话与否与人们报告火警的能力有什么关系,无关嘛,就算你跟踪到了,我不告诉你火的大小性质,你业白跑啊,
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[此贴子已经被作者于2007-10-12 10:45:27编辑过]
34#
发表于 2007-12-2 19:57:00 | 只看该作者
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35#
发表于 2008-1-30 19:10:00 | 只看该作者
以下是引用gonghao在2006-9-11 15:08:00的发言:

either A and C has its advantage.the conclusion here is :Removing the boxes will reduce the number of prank calls without hampering people’s ability to report a fire.

here A much more focus on the "prank" ,meanwhile ,C is specialized on "hampering people’s ability to report a fire"

the conclusion will have good effect if the number of prnak calls decrese and the ability to report a fire is not weakened.The success relies on the both of these factros do their jobs.

If A become realized ,the number of prnak calls will decrese.If C is the truth ,the ability to report a fire won't be undermined.

But here A is a little be tricky here. fire department can  trace all alarm calls not only make from private tele- phones and  record where they came from but also alarm boxs do.But since the private calls are different from the alarm boxes that have no idea who make  the calls ,choice A make some sence to some extent.

It's tough question here,and C maybe more concentrated on the the content emphasized in the argument--"without hampering people’s ability to report a fire.".So the reference answer here prefer to C firmly

here A much more focus on the "prank" ,meanwhile ,C is specialized on "hampering people’s ability to report a fire"

the conclusion will have good effect if the number of prnak calls decrese and the ability to report a fire is not weakened.The success relies on the both of these factros do their jobs.

If A become realized ,the number of prnak calls will decrese.If C is the truth ,the ability to report a fire won't be undermined.

But here A is a little be tricky here. fire department can  trace all alarm calls not only make from private tele- phones and  record where they came from but also alarm boxs do.But since the private calls are different from the alarm boxes that have no idea who make  the calls ,choice A make some sence to some extent.

It's tough question here,and C maybe more concentrated on the the content emphasized in the argument--"without hampering people’s ability to report a fire.".So the reference answer here prefer to C firmly

here A much more focus on the "prank" ,meanwhile ,C is specialized on "hampering people’s ability to report a fire"

the conclusion will have good effect if the number of prnak calls decrese and the ability to report a fire is not weakened.The success relies on the both of these factros do their jobs.

If A become realized ,the number of prnak calls will decrese.If C is the truth ,the ability to report a fire won't be undermined.

But here A is a little be tricky here. fire department can  trace all alarm calls not only make from private tele- phones and  record where they came from but also alarm boxs do.But since the private calls are different from the alarm boxes that have no idea who make  the calls ,choice A make some sence to some extent.

It's tough question here,and C maybe more concentrated on the the content emphasized in the argument--"without hampering people’s ability to report a fire.".So the reference answer here prefer to C firmly

nice point, 接着这位的观点我也有些看法
首先是fire alarm box是什么,我猜测可能是一个有按钮的盒子之类的东西,按下按钮后,消防中心自动收到信息哪里起火了
也就是说,alarm box有两个特性,第一,容易恶作剧;第二,报警能力有限,不能像电话一样,报警人能够实时描述火灾现场,也就是说报警能力弱于电话
那么这样我们看,撤销了box之后,从电话可追踪的角度来讲(A),恶作剧的可能性降低了,同时“没有伤害报警能力”
从描述火警现场的角度讲(C),恶作剧的可能性没有降低(因为没说到私人电话如何能够限制恶作剧),但是报警能力不是“没有受到伤害”,而是加强了,所以它没有涉及到第一个条件,并且过度强化了第二个条件,我觉得是错误的
另外说一句,春田镇是不是就是辛普森一家里那地方啊,ETS有到处摘东西的习惯,不是没可能吧

36#
发表于 2008-2-29 19:32:00 | 只看该作者

同意a

37#
发表于 2008-3-12 11:44:00 | 只看该作者
一开始选A,现在觉得C也很正确,应该support "not hamper"
38#
发表于 2008-3-29 01:54:00 | 只看该作者

从描述火警现场的角度讲(C),恶作剧的可能性没有降低(因为没说到私人电话如何能够限制恶作剧),但是报警能力不是“没有受到伤害”,而是加强了,所以它没有涉及到第一个条件,并且过度强化了第二个条件,我觉得是错误的

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以前选C,现在觉得好像A对啊.上面有道理.

C没有涉及到第一个条件,只是片面加强第二个条件,同时过分加强第二个.

而A:可以追踪,就取消了匿名恶作剧的可能.而报警能力方面其实只要不削弱,保持原样就可以.而电话报警的能力,就算是和按钮报警能力一样,但是减少了恶作剧就是胜利

39#
发表于 2008-3-29 01:58:00 | 只看该作者

. 结论是: Removing the boxes will reduce the

number of prank calls without hampering people’s ability to report a fire.

without是伴随的条件吧,"不伤害人民报警能力的同时,降低恶作剧报警",主要重点还是降低恶作剧报警,只不过前提是满足报警能力不下降.

40#
发表于 2008-3-30 16:28:00 | 只看该作者

support C!

亲爱的,这题你想得太多了。
1)EMMA同学好象考虑得太多了,完全超出了题目的范围.做CR只能推一层意思,不能再深入了.
2)其实你说的有一定道理:A偏重于reduce the number of prank calls而C则偏重于 without hampering people’s ability to report a fire。我们先不争论应该强调前面还是强调后面,我们仔细分析一下 A,C两项的表述。
3)A的说法是 The fire department traces all alarm calls made from private tele-phones and records where they came from.要是只推一层意思的话,这句话所给的信息不够达到原文的目的。能追踪谎报在哪里发出不能直接打到可以减少谎报的结论,因为有可能谎报的人都是不要命的人,给你追踪到就追踪到吧,我还是谎报我的。这就像增加了警力未必能减少犯罪一样,因为很可能大多数罪犯都是豁出去的,“俺不要命了!”
4)反观C:A telephone call can provide the fire department with more information about the nature and size of a fire than can an alarm placed from an alarm box.这句话其实就可以跟原文的without hampering people’s ability to report a fire很好对应上了。是很自然的过渡,属于一层推理。因此就选项本身的逻辑严密性而言,还是C比较好。
5)这里我们可以看到做逻辑题的一些技巧:正确的选项往往是带有比较意味的。就如这题,C中的MORE INFORMATION就是一个,我们在看到这些选项是,要特别小心,细心分析。反观A就没有比较意味了。


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