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携隐小教室第四期-答疑(首页更新回贴汇总-4/13/08)

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411#
发表于 2008-5-12 16:57:00 | 只看该作者
看了携隐小教室第三期,觉得很有收获;顶起携隐小教室第四期
412#
发表于 2008-5-13 21:10:00 | 只看该作者
顶qi
413#
发表于 2008-5-14 01:11:00 | 只看该作者

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In laboratory rats, a low dose of aspirin usually suffices to block production of thromboxane, which is a substance that promotes blood clotting, but not seriously interfering with the production of prostacyclin, which prevents clotting.

(A) which is a substance that promotes blood clotting, but not seriously interfering

(B) a substance that promotes blood clotting, but not seriously interfering

(C) a substance that promotes blood clotting, but does not seriously interfere

(D) which is a substance to promote blood clotting, but does not seriously interfere

(E) which is a substance that promotes blood clotting, but not a serious interference

请问选项C和D有什么区别?我选的D,可答案是C,a substance that promotes blood clotting做补足语,修饰前面的可thromboxane;D中which is a substance to promote blood clotting,就近修饰prostacyclin又有什么错呢?也不妨碍suffices与interfere平行啊?不理解PREP的解释,请指教?

414#
发表于 2008-5-14 01:26:00 | 只看该作者
以下是引用rolar在2008-5-14 1:11:00的发言:

请教prep,SC1中35.   (26325-!-item-!-188;#058&002592)

 

 

In laboratory rats, a low dose of aspirin usually suffices to block production of thromboxane, which is a substance that promotes blood clotting, but not seriously interfering with the production of prostacyclin, which prevents clotting.

(A) which is a substance that promotes blood clotting, but not seriously interfering

(B) a substance that promotes blood clotting, but not seriously interfering

(C) a substance that promotes blood clotting, but does not seriously interfere

(D) which is a substance to promote blood clotting, but does not seriously interfere

(E) which is a substance that promotes blood clotting, but not a serious interference

请问选项C和D有什么区别?我选的D,可答案是C,a substance that promotes blood clotting做补足语,修饰前面的可thromboxane;D中which is a substance to promote blood clotting,就近修饰prostacyclin又有什么错呢?也不妨碍suffices与interfere平行啊?不理解PREP的解释,请指教?

我的理解.C中是做A SUBATANCE 同位语,后面用定语从句修饰.

而D中,即使可以用,WHICH (但是很累赘),又有歧义,因为which is a substance to promote blood clotting, but (WHICH )does not seriously interfere赶边了原因.C避免了起义,是喜欢的同位于.

415#
发表于 2008-5-14 01:49:00 | 只看该作者
我觉得a substance尽管后面是限定性定从,整个这句话a substance that promotes blood clotting就是做 thromboxane的同位语的。没什么问题,C我理解。但是D我觉得也没什么问题,你说会产生歧意,我觉得不会,因为有but这个连词,你再把后面的production of prostacyclin与前面的production of thromboxane对照,很明显是平行结构啊!所以我还是不理解!我觉得是不是ETS喜欢同位语,或者分词结构修饰啊,相对于定语从句来说。
416#
发表于 2008-5-14 12:02:00 | 只看该作者
以下是引用rolar在2008-5-14 1:49:00的发言:
我觉得a substance尽管后面是限定性定从,整个这句话a substance that promotes blood clotting就是做 thromboxane的同位语的。没什么问题,C我理解。但是D我觉得也没什么问题,你说会产生歧意,我觉得不会,因为有but这个连词,你再把后面的production of prostacyclin与前面的production of thromboxane对照,很明显是平行结构啊!所以我还是不理解!我觉得是不是ETS喜欢同位语,或者分词结构修饰啊,相对于定语从句来说。

后来想了想,对which is a substance to promote....我觉得关键在这,promote 本来做实在定于从句中的,施动者在a substance 就是thromboxane,现在在d中表现为 目的状语,但是原文并没有此意。你觉得呢?

417#
发表于 2008-5-15 01:37:00 | 只看该作者
我刚看到,觉得C和D真的从意思上来说区别不大,无论是同位语,还是非限定从,还是你说的目的状语,我觉得区别真的不太大,我们是不是该从ETS的喜好来选择?看ETS喜欢什么样的句子特征,来判断?你说呢?语法上来说,我看不出啥区别了!
418#
发表于 2008-5-15 13:36:00 | 只看该作者
以下是引用rolar在2008-5-14 1:11:00的发言:

请教prep,SC1中35.   (26325-!-item-!-188;#058&002592)

 

 

In laboratory rats, a low dose of aspirin usually suffices to block production of thromboxane, which is a substance that promotes blood clotting, but not seriously interfering with the production of prostacyclin, which prevents clotting.

(A) which is a substance that promotes blood clotting, but not seriously interfering

(B) a substance that promotes blood clotting, but not seriously interfering

(C) a substance that promotes blood clotting, but does not seriously interfere

(D) which is a substance to promote blood clotting, but does not seriously interfere

(E) which is a substance that promotes blood clotting, but not a serious interference

请问选项C和D有什么区别?我选的D,可答案是C,a substance that promotes blood clotting做补足语,修饰前面的可thromboxane;D中which is a substance to promote blood clotting,就近修饰prostacyclin又有什么错呢?也不妨碍suffices与interfere平行啊?不理解PREP的解释,请指教?

PREP的解释是什么? n能否贴出来?

我觉得D因为but的存在,整个句子结构都错了, 这里的but 不同于C的but, c里面 因为从句的先行词是a substance , 所以 that promotes blood clotting, but does not seriously interfere 可以看作是整个都修饰a substance

而在D中, thromboxane,  which is a substance to promote blood clotting, but does not seriously interfere   如果如rolar所说, 是平行, 即 promote 和 interfere 两个意思 平行, 但请注意这等于说是将 a substance to promote blood clotting和 but does not seriously interfere   平行, 势必在语法上不允许. 这样一来, but只能作为主句结构, 也就是成了主句的第二个谓语, 即于suffice平行, 而这样又违背了逻辑意思

不知道罗嗦了一大堆, 大家同意否?

open to discuss

419#
发表于 2008-5-15 14:51:00 | 只看该作者

能见到携影姐姐真的感到好荣幸啊!

420#
发表于 2008-5-16 18:06:00 | 只看该作者

好不容易现在才能上网,好像dingxiang没理解我的意思,我一直都认为说suffices interfere是平行的,but是连词,形成对称平行结构。而不是promoteinterfere平行啊!而我的问题是a substance that promotes blood clotting作为thromboxane的同位语与非限定从 which is a substance to promote blood clotting修饰thromboxane又有啥区别呢?而且which is a substance to promote blood clotting还与最后的which prevents clotting形成对称!

prep关于D的解释我又认真看了下,说Dbut does not seriously interfere更像跟which is a substance to promote blood clotting并列,作为thromboxane的谓语动词,这样就改变了原意。

那我就有个疑问了,but does not seriously interfere的主语怎么会是前面主句a low dose of aspirin usually suffices to block production of thromboxane的宾语啊?有这样的句式结构的吗?

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