留美国还是回中国？？比较

fuhongl

俺第一句就说了，有后台和牛人除外．

fuhongl

当然不是说每个人都被underpay了，但是很多情况就是，比如说，我们都知道升 salary 最快的办法是跳槽，但是如果为了等绿卡，很多人有时就得考虑一下是不是worth it.这样无形中就等于被underpay了．但是老美就可以肆无忌惮的随便跳，更可以要挟公司． 当然我不是认为这样是 beneficial.

会飞的小蘑菇

谢谢诸位的诚恳建议，小女基本决定回国了，其实很大的原因是因为中国的美食太好吃啦！等真为绿卡熬到了快退休的年龄，牙都掉得没几颗的时候才回国天天享受正宗中国美食那真是人生之大不幸啊。。

[此贴子已经被作者于2008-1-26 5:59:59编辑过]

YellowJacket

以下是引用会飞的小蘑菇在2008-1-26 5:46:00的发言：
谢谢诸位的诚恳建议，小女基本决定回国了，其实很大的原因是因为中国的美食太好吃啦！等真为绿卡熬到了快退休的年龄，牙都掉得没几颗的时候才回国天天享受正宗中国美食那真是人生之大不幸啊。。

It's easier for MM: just get married with U.S. citizen.  You can get your green card immediately.  If you hang out anyone outside of the "Chinese students" circle, everyone you meet is a U.S. citizen.

Consider these points:

1) China: you breath toxic air; U.S.: you breath clean air.

2) China: you need VISA to visit almost every countries, U.S.: you visit most countries VISA-free.

3) China: you live in a box, U.S.: you live in a mansion with backyard.

4) China: your kids learn how take exams, U.S.: your kids learn how to be themselves.

5) China: you need to be the 'top' to earn top money, U.S.: you earn top money if you are doing okay.

6) China: you fight for everything, U.S.: everyone holds the door for you.

7) China: you eat only Chinese food, U.S.: you have food from different countries (NYC or SF bayarea)

8) China: your kids speak Chinese; U.S.: your kids know Chinese, English, and Spanish. (Like my kids)

9) China: you scramble for a seat in movie theatre; U.S.: there are plenty of empty seats

10) China: there is a long line for everything; U.S.: there is no line.

11) China: people are everywhere; U.S.: sometimes it is hard to find people.

12) China: you cannot own land, U.S.: when you buy a house, you own the land as well.

13) China: every four years, you see the same people raising their hands in congress, U.S.: every four years, it's a big entertainment for people to watch the presidential candidates.

14) China: winner is greeted with red eyes, U.S.: winner is the hero.

15) China: you hide your money if you are rich, U.S.: you donate your money to charity if you are rich.

delphine18

以下是引用YellowJacket在2008-1-26 6:39:00的发言：

It's easier for MM: just get married with U.S. citizen.  You can get your green card immediately.  If you hang out anyone outside of the "Chinese students" circle, everyone you meet is a U.S. citizen.

If you marry a US citizen, then probably you'll have to stay in US to live with your spouse. US people don't think long-distance relationship will work, let alone marriage. So if you want to go back to China but also with a green card by marrying a US guy, the only way is that he relocates with you to China. And even if he agrees, you may have some concern as a MM, for he would become so hot simply as a Western guy back to China, right?

I agree with most of your rest points though.

会飞的小蘑菇

以下是引用YellowJacket在2008-1-26 6:39:00的发言：

It's easier for MM: just get married with U.S. citizen.  You can get your green card immediately.  If you hang out anyone outside of the "Chinese students" circle, everyone you meet is a U.S. citizen.

Consider these points:

1) China: you breath toxic air; U.S.: you breath clean air.  哪的写字楼都叫一个混浊啊。。

2) China: you need VISA to visit almost every countries, U.S.: you visit most countries VISA-free. 回去估计没时间旅游的。。

3) China: you live in a box, U.S.: you live in a mansion with backyard. 争取赚钱买越层的。。

4) China: your kids learn how take exams, U.S.: your kids learn how to be themselves. kids不管在哪都要学会适者生存。。

5) China: you need to be the 'top' to earn top money, U.S.: you earn top money if you are doing okay. 这倒是真的。。但是美国的钱也只能是ok

6) China: you fight for everything, U.S.: everyone holds the door for you. 美国人自扫门前雪吧？？？

7) China: you eat only Chinese food, U.S.: you have food from different countries (NYC or SF bayarea) 一生能发现一两种最幸福的美味足以。。

8) China: your kids speak Chinese; U.S.: your kids know Chinese, English, and Spanish. (Like my kids) 我要让kids学6门语言计划。。

9) China: you scramble for a seat in movie theatre; U.S.: there are plenty of empty seats 看看西单大岳城亚洲最大的环幕立体电影。。

10) China: there is a long line for everything; U.S.: there is no line. 没办法。。从哪代开始提倡多生就是生产力来着？？真是。。

11) China: people are everywhere; U.S.: sometimes it is hard to find people. 看看“我是传奇“发现没人真得很恐怖。。

12) China: you cannot own land, U.S.: when you buy a house, you own the land as well.  是不是有了land咱祖孙8代就不能动地方啦？？？

13) China: every four years, you see the same people raising their hands in congress, U.S.: every four years, it's a big entertainment for people to watch the presidential candidates.  就是就是，中国4年前就知道4年后为谁举手拉。。

14) China: winner is greeted with red eyes, U.S.: winner is the hero.  要真能当上中国的英雄那祖孙后代算有人管拉。。

15) China: you hide your money if you are rich, U.S.: you donate your money to charity if you are rich.  那还是在中国有钱自己藏着偷着乐好啊！。。

[此贴子已经被作者于2008-1-26 7:46:24编辑过]

三十以后

我觉得感觉最重要。在美国，是有很多benefit,但是我很难有一种做主人扬眉吐气，走到大街上看见一只狗都想着要不要踢它一脚的嚣张感觉。只能是老老实实在美国人所制定的愚蠢规则之下行为做事。或者就是被边缘化。毕竟华裔在中国还是很小的少数族裔，不像非裔或西裔那样即使不跟白人混，自己也能混的感觉。

支持LZ回国。

三十以后

以下是引用YellowJacket在2008-1-26 6:39:00的发言：

It's easier for MM: just get married with U.S. citizen.  You can get your green card immediately.  If you hang out anyone outside of the "Chinese students" circle, everyone you meet is a U.S. citizen.

Consider these points:

1) China: you breath toxic air; U.S.: you breath clean air.

2) China: you need VISA to visit almost every countries, U.S.: you visit most countries VISA-free.

3) China: you live in a box, U.S.: you live in a mansion with backyard.

4) China: your kids learn how take exams, U.S.: your kids learn how to be themselves.：作为家长当然可以选择自己教育的方式。

5) China: you need to be the 'top' to earn top money, U.S.: you earn top money if you are doing okay. top MBA回国大部分还都是在“top” 吧

6) China: you fight for everything, U.S.: everyone holds the door for you.不见得。美国的“关系学”不比国内的简单

7) China: you eat only Chinese food, U.S.: you have food from different countries (NYC or SF bayarea):在美国，你大部分时间吃西餐，偶尔吃中餐，在香港上海，你可以大部分时间吃中餐，偶尔吃西餐

8) China: your kids speak Chinese; U.S.: your kids know Chinese, English, and Spanish. (Like my kids)在美国，你的小孩不会讲中文，至少不会写。在中国，你的小孩会讲英文也会写英文。现在的英文教育可比我们那时先进多了

9) China: you scramble for a seat in movie theatre; U.S.: there are plenty of empty seats: 如果有钱买家庭影院为什么要看电影？

10) China: there is a long line for everything; U.S.: there is no line.

11) China: people are everywhere; U.S.: sometimes it is hard to find people. 就是sometime its hard to find people, 问题是你喜欢这样吗？

12) China: you cannot own land, U.S.: when you buy a house, you own the land as well.

13) China: every four years, you see the same people raising their hands in congress, U.S.: every four years, it's a big entertainment for people to watch the presidential candidates.有人免费娱乐您还不高兴？

14) China: winner is greeted with red eyes, U.S.: winner is the hero.

15) China: you hide your money if you are rich, U.S.: you donate your money to charity if you are rich. 你可以选择捐赠或者做公益，这是你的选择，不是社会的选择

会飞的小蘑菇

以下是引用三十以后在2008-1-26 8:13:00的发言：

我觉得感觉最重要。在美国，是有很多benefit,但是我很难有一种做主人扬眉吐气，走到大街上看见一只狗都想着要不要踢它一脚的嚣张感觉。只能是老老实实在美国人所制定的愚蠢规则之下行为做事。或者就是被边缘化。毕竟华裔在中国还是很小的少数族裔，不像非裔或西裔那样即使不跟白人混，自己也能混的感觉。

支持LZ回国。

这个比较狠，在哪都算“很黄很暴利。。”

[此贴子已经被作者于2008-1-26 8:32:01编辑过]

三十以后

呵呵，夸张一点。you know what I mearn