GWD-13-17

Maggieyin

I agree to choose : B A D A.

for q16, because i did not find debate in a, or opposing view in C, or reason in D or misconception in E, , B is the best.

for Q17,  there is only one mentioned fact responsile for the unsatisfaction, please look up: "Guild members could make and sell womens's and children's clothing, but were prohibited from producing men's clothing or dresses for court women.", " seamstresses, meanwhile, were impatient with the remainming restrictions on their rights to cloth women". I think answer A is the best.

for Q18,  "At the conflict’s center was the issue of whether tailors’ female relatives should be identified as family members protected by the tailors’ guild or as individuals under the jurisdiction of the seamstress' guild". I think the group of relative is very special and different from both individual seamstresses and tailors. then I choose D.

for Q19,  according the content " The seamstresses, however, vies guild membership as a mark of independence from the patriarchal family. Their guild was composed not of family units but of individual women who enjoyed unusual legal and economic privileges". I think  "unusal legal and economic privileges"  is most consistent with what was mentioned in answer A.

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mikeleven

以下是引用caterpillar在2004-8-17 0:45:00的发言：
得选B更好，当然主要还是在于对这句话的理解：were impatient with the remaining restrictions on their right to clothe women.我觉得这句话的意思是：对于仍然限制她们只许做女人的衣服表示不耐烦。

我认为这句话不是这样解的，to clothe women应该修饰their right，remaining修饰restrictions，所以应该是 在their right to clothe women方面有remaining restrictions。

如果是caterpillar的解法，不符合restriction on的英文表达方式，可能要用restriction to N-->to 为介系词。
还有逻辑问题，因为这些女裁缝的客户可以是children+非court women，所以用caterpillar的解法(只许做女人的衣服)不够周延，因为漏掉了小孩的衣服。

从另一个角度去思考：(大家参考看看，这点扯比较远)
由
1.15行-->impatient with
2.39行-->view guild membership "as a mark of independence from the patriachal family"
表示女裁缝对guild的态度是正负皆有的
加以考量时空背景，个人认为女裁缝不可能对于"不准做男人的衣服"感到不满，反而应该觉得理所当然！(揣摩一下当时的妇女心态，不但不太可能有individualist feminism的观点，甚至连relational feminism都还没出现!!参考OG.p360关于女权的那篇)；如果对这个限制都感到不满，他们对guild的态度就不至于有39行的说法了，在文章其他地方也找不到正面的支持了

同意A

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bose0008

加以考量时空背景，个人认为女裁缝不可能对于"不准做男人的衣服"感到不满，反而应该觉得理所当然！(揣摩一下当时的妇女心态，不但不太可能有individualist feminism的观点，甚至连relational feminism都还没出现!!参考OG.p360关于女权的那篇)；如果对这个限制都感到不满，他们对guild的态度就不至于有39行的说法了，在文章其他地方也找不到正面的支持了

GOOD POINT

apple01

Why is the answer for 18 is D? I donot see anything wrong with E.

JerryGuan

Q18:

It can be inferred from the passage that which of the following was true of seamstresses employed by relatives who were members of the tailors’ guild?

              

1. They were instrumental in convincing Louis XIV to establish the seamstresses’ guild.
2. They were rarely allowed to assist master tailors in the production of men’s clothing.
3. They were considered by some tailors to be a threat to the tailors’ monopoly.
4. They did not enjoy the same economic and legal privileges that members of the seamstresses’ guild enjoyed.

5. They felt their status as working women gave them a certain degree of independence from the patriarchal family.

E错在working women上。

JerryGuan

下面这句话是什么意思哈：

A 1675  police report indicated that

       since so many seamstresses

were already working illegally,

the tailors were unlikely to

(25)      suffer additional economic

damage because of the

seamstresses’ incorporation.

似水年华

同意tulipmon tree, 17A, 19B

cocoabean

以下是引用Maggieyin在2004-10-12 23:05:00的发言：

I agree to choose : B A D A.

for q16, because i did not find debate in a, or opposing view in C, or reason in D or misconception in E, , B is the best.

for Q17,  there is only one mentioned fact responsile for the unsatisfaction, please look up: "Guild members could make and sell womens's and children's clothing, but were prohibited from producing men's clothing or dresses for court women.", " seamstresses, meanwhile, were impatient with the remainming restrictions on their rights to cloth women". I think answer A is the best.

for Q18,  "At the conflict’s center was the issue of whether tailors’ female relatives should be identified as family members protected by the tailors’ guild or as individuals under the jurisdiction of the seamstress' guild". I think the group of relative is very special and different from both individual seamstresses and tailors. then I choose D.

for Q19,  according the content " The seamstresses, however, vies guild membership as a mark of independence from the patriarchal family. Their guild was composed not of family units but of individual women who enjoyed unusual legal and economic privileges". I think  "unusal legal and economic privileges"  is most consistent with what was mentioned in answer A.

great!

withsmilemm

这两题我也有不同意见，

17 就不说了，谢谢醋MM的精辟解释。

19 还是该选A，我觉得这个答案是从最后一段文章中出来的。最后一段一开始就说了：

The conflict between

the guilds was not purely

(20)   economic,

后面是在举例说明。所以这里问作者的目的，应该从大一点的方向考虑。

zhixi

You are wrong. I think A  is the right answer.