请教各位前辈一道GWD 1-Q34

concong

以下是引用JerryGuan在2004-10-7 20:37:00的发言：

此题我一开始也选了D，看了这里的讨论仍未得满意解。后来，仔细看了看原句，我想还是B对，D错了。原因如下：

*把D代入句中：Although the rate of fatty foods consumed in France and the United States is about the same, the

death rates from heart disease are far lower in France.

“虽然（法国和美国的）消费的肥肉速率是相同的，法国的死率却更低！”

读起来好像没有问题，但细想就有问题了……

如果换你自己思维来表达前半分句，你会如何表达？我会这样写：

Although the rate of fatty foods consumed in France and the rate in United States are about the same,

对比这一句和D，我想你应该可以看出来这里的差别了。再看我在翻译中表明的“（法国和美国的）”

而B则没有这个问题：

at about the same rate 作状语。

推论：

不能依靠翻译过来后读起来没有问题的句子，在英语的环境下思考。

看了讨论真晕，同意jerry的看法

the rate of fatty foods consumed in France and the United States is about the same

这样的表达没有比较的意味

tempture

以下是引用Teky在2004-10-14 17:20:00的发言：

我又找到一个有趣的例子，叁考看看

When you use really in front of an adjective or adverb, it has a similar meaning to `very'. Note that you can say either `Gilbert is really clever' or `Gilbert really is clever'. The meaning is almost the same. In both cases you are saying that Gilbert is very clever, but when you say `Gilbert really is clever', you are expressing surprise that Gilbert is clever, or trying to convince someone else that he is. (Collins COBUILD usage)

if compared to this example....

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音乐咖啡猫

以下是引用jessie_nj2002在2004-10-27 13:27:00的发言：

Q34:

Although people in France consume fatty foods at a rate comparable to the United States, their death rates from heart disease are far lower in France.

1. people in France consume fatty foods at a rate comparable to the United States, their
   
2. people in France and the United States consume fatty foods at about the same rate, the
   
3. fatty foods are consumed by people in France at a comparable rate to the United States’s, their
   
4. the rate of fatty foods consumed in France and the United States is about the same, the
   
5. the rate of people consuming fatty foods is about the same in France and the United States, the

D是不是还有这个歧义？：（the rate of fatty foods） consumed ，consumed 修饰 the rate?

这个问题我也有同感，不知道有没有人给出解释呢？

音乐咖啡猫

以下是引用joe11在2004-11-1 22:56:00的发言：

D. the rate of fatty foods consumed in France and the United States is about the same, the

别争了，好累呀。看D,  一个 rate 怎么能 is about the same 呢？ 至少有两个对象才能比较么。

对这个，我有疑问，为什么不能说在后面省略掉RATE呢？这样一样会是比较啊，请解释。

aokceo

1. the rate of fatty foods consumed in France and the United States is about the same, the（前分句前后可比且从句之间非常平行）

should be changed as :

1. the rate of fatty foods consumed in France and that of the United States are about the same, the

would be more reasonable .

pengh

D 中的 "is" 不对, 应为 "are".

A and B is the same. (wrong)

A and B are the same. (correct)

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msfox

同意楼上。

hylrd

我觉得句子的原意是进行两个rate的对比，那么，B中的at same rate的修士对象是混乱的，修饰people 还是 fatty food？D中始终没有给出消耗的主体，和心脏病的主体，也是不对的。我原先选的E，但是，THE same and, 是不对的，这里的same可以解释成代词么？请指教

seekmydream

GWD-1-Q34:

Although people in France consume fatty foods at a rate comparable to the United States, their death rates from heart disease are far lower in France.

1. people in France consume fatty foods at a rate comparable to the United States, their
2. people in France and the United States consume fatty foods at about the same rate, the
3. fatty foods are consumed by people in France at a comparable rate to the United States’s, their
4. the rate of fatty foods consumed in France and the United States is about the same, the
5. the rate of people consuming fatty foods is about the same in France and the United States, the

看了前面的讨论都晕了, 偶来谈谈偶做题时的思路:

A. 比较不对称, 应是 people in France consume fatty foods at a rate comparable to that in the United States, their

C.有三错:1.被动语态用得不对; 2.比较也不对称,应用that 而不是所有格来指代the rate; 3. their指代fatty foods,显然

   不对

D.the rate of fatty foods is about the same不符合逻辑, consumed 做定语修饰fatty foods

    D从语法上看没有错误, 这也是最容易选错的原因

E.比较意思不搭配且不对称,即用the same ... as ...而不是the same...and..., 应改为 the rate of people consuming fatty foods is about the same in France as in the United States, the

只有B没有语法和逻辑上的错误.

scorpio0001

我从另一个角度讨论：介词短语的位置问题

我认为BD都存在歧义：

B: in France and the United States既可以修饰people做定语，又可以修饰comsume做状语

D：同样的介词短语既可以和consumed一起做定语修饰foods，又可以做状语修饰is

只有E不存在这样的歧义，而且人的比率（消费比率）和人的比率（死亡比率）相对应，没有什么错误。