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玄冥太子

Ron曾经阐述了使用comma+ing的条件，
即
1) it should apply most nearly to the subject of the preceding clause (as you've said);and, even more importantly,
2) it should have one of the following RELATIONSHIPS to that clause:
* immediate consequence
* simultaneous, but lower-priority, action

OG13-35
By 1940, the pilot Jacqueline Cochran held seventeen
official national and international speed records, and
she earned them at a time when aviation was still so
new for many of the planes she flew to be of
dangerously experimental design,
(A) and she earned them at a time when aviation
was still so new for many of the planes she flew
to be
(B) earning them at a time that aviation was still so
new for many of the planes she flew to be
(C) earning these at a time where aviation was still
so new that many of the planes she flew were
(D) earned at a time in which aviation was still so
new such that many of the planes she flew were
(E) earned at a time when aviation was still so new
that many of the planes she flew were
答案是E。
OG对B项的解释是：Here, the word earning takes the pilot herself, not the records, as its subject. However, earning is close to the records, not to Jacqueline Cochran, making this sentence hard to process. In addition, the causal relationship between aviation being new and planes being of experimental design is more effectively communicated by the structure so new that many X were Y, not by the structure so new for many Y to be X.
按照Ron的条件，earning them at a time完全满足。earning可以视为和held同时发生，且apply to  the subject。也就是对的，为什么OG却说是不对的，有可能修饰records.还有一种说法是earn离主语太远造成修饰歧义，在我看来这跟OG13-29题相比较已经算近的了。
OG13-29
Emily Dickinson’s letters to Susan Huntington Dickinson were written over a period beginning a few years before Susan’s marriage to Emily’s brother and ending shortly before Emily’s death in 1886, outnumbering her letters to anyone else.
为什么还会产生修饰歧义？
我有两个问题不明白：
V-ing是离主语太远还是离主句谓语太远会产生歧义？
这个距离怎么判断？
各位牛牛，ing问题纠结半天了，越看越糊涂，帮帮我吧

玄冥太子

没人理，自己顶

玄冥太子

babybearmm

Ron曾经阐述了使用comma+ing的条件，
即
1) it should apply most nearly to the subject of the preceding clause (as you've said);and, even more importantly,
2) it should have one of the following RELATIONSHIPS to that clause:
* immediate consequence
* simultaneous, but lower-priority, action

OG13-35
By 1940, the pilot Jacqueline Cochran held seventeen
official national and international speed records, and
she earned them at a time when aviation was still so
new for many of the planes she flew to be of
dangerously experimental design,
(A) and she earned them at a time when aviation
was still so new for many of the planes she flew
to be
(B) earning them at a time that aviation was still so
new for many of the planes she flew to be
(C) earning these at a time where aviation was still
so new that many of the planes she flew were
(D) earned at a time in which aviation was still so
new such that many of the planes she flew were
(E) earned at a time when aviation was still so new
that many of the planes she flew were
答案是E。
OG对B项的解释是：Here, the word earning takes the pilot herself, not the records, as its subject. However, earning is close to the records, not to Jacqueline Cochran, making this sentence hard to process. In addition, the causal relationship between aviation being new and planes being of experimental design is more effectively communicated by the structure so new that many X were Y, not by the structure so new for many Y to be X.
按照Ron的条件，earning them at a time完全满足。earning可以视为和held同时发生，且apply to  the subject。也就是对的，为什么OG却说是不对的，有可能修饰records.还有一种说法是earn离主语太远造成修饰歧义，在我看来这跟OG13-29题相比较已经算近的了。
OG13-29
Emily Dickinson’s letters to Susan Huntington Dickinson were written over a period beginning a few years before Susan’s marriage to Emily’s brother and ending shortly before Emily’s death in 1886, outnumbering her letters to anyone else.
为什么还会产生修饰歧义？
我有两个问题不明白：
V-ing是离主语太远还是离主句谓语太远会产生歧义？
这个距离怎么判断？
各位牛牛，ing问题纠结半天了，越看越糊涂，帮帮我吧

-- by 会员 玄冥太子 (2012/7/26 17:56:29)

"按照Ron的条件，earning them at a time完全满足。earning可以视为和held同时发生，且apply to  the subject。也就是对的，为什么OG却说是不对的，有可能修饰records."


同学啊，注意语义。comma + v-ing 到底表示什么逻辑意思？


"He read OG for eight times, hoping for a stellar GMAT score. "
This sentence makes sense.


"He read OG for eight times, doing all the prep questions."
This sentence does NOT make sense.


这题就属于后一种情况，如果你用v-ing，that does not make sense.
从语义上讲，后面那一串，讲的是international speed records怎么earned的，所以用 comma + v-ed 作为noun modifier修饰international speed records.

玄冥太子

Ron曾经阐述了使用comma+ing的条件，
即
1) it should apply most nearly to the subject of the preceding clause (as you've said);and, even more importantly,
2) it should have one of the following RELATIONSHIPS to that clause:
* immediate consequence
* simultaneous, but lower-priority, action

OG13-35
By 1940, the pilot Jacqueline Cochran held seventeen
official national and international speed records, and
she earned them at a time when aviation was still so
new for many of the planes she flew to be of
dangerously experimental design,
(A) and she earned them at a time when aviation
was still so new for many of the planes she flew
to be
(B) earning them at a time that aviation was still so
new for many of the planes she flew to be
(C) earning these at a time where aviation was still
so new that many of the planes she flew were
(D) earned at a time in which aviation was still so
new such that many of the planes she flew were
(E) earned at a time when aviation was still so new
that many of the planes she flew were
答案是E。
OG对B项的解释是：Here, the word earning takes the pilot herself, not the records, as its subject. However, earning is close to the records, not to Jacqueline Cochran, making this sentence hard to process. In addition, the causal relationship between aviation being new and planes being of experimental design is more effectively communicated by the structure so new that many X were Y, not by the structure so new for many Y to be X.
按照Ron的条件，earning them at a time完全满足。earning可以视为和held同时发生，且apply to  the subject。也就是对的，为什么OG却说是不对的，有可能修饰records.还有一种说法是earn离主语太远造成修饰歧义，在我看来这跟OG13-29题相比较已经算近的了。
OG13-29
Emily Dickinson’s letters to Susan Huntington Dickinson were written over a period beginning a few years before Susan’s marriage to Emily’s brother and ending shortly before Emily’s death in 1886, outnumbering her letters to anyone else.
为什么还会产生修饰歧义？
我有两个问题不明白：
V-ing是离主语太远还是离主句谓语太远会产生歧义？
这个距离怎么判断？
各位牛牛，ing问题纠结半天了，越看越糊涂，帮帮我吧

-- by 会员 玄冥太子 (2012/7/26 17:56:29)

"按照Ron的条件，earning them at a time完全满足。earning可以视为和held同时发生，且apply to  the subject。也就是对的，为什么OG却说是不对的，有可能修饰records."


同学啊，注意语义。comma + v-ing 到底表示什么逻辑意思？


"He read OG for eight times, hoping for a stellar GMAT score. "
This sentence makes sense.


"He read OG for eight times, doing all the prep questions."
This sentence does NOT make sense.


这题就属于后一种情况，如果你用v-ing，that does not make sense.
从语义上讲，后面那一串，讲的是international speed records怎么earned的，所以用 comma + v-ed 作为noun modifier修饰international speed records.

-- by 会员 babybearmm (2012/7/27 19:48:24)

哇，baby姐被我喊来了，但是这里可不可以表伴随，作为对前面主句的一个补充呢？doing all the prep questions 作为read OG的一种方式,我是这么理解的。对于comma+ING都头大了，到底是修饰句末object还是修饰前面的整个句子？这个具体该怎么区分呢？望Baby姐解答

babybearmm

”但是这里可不可以表伴随，作为对前面主句的一个补充呢？doing all the prep questions 作为read OG的一种方式,我是这么理解的。“

我觉得”表伴随”是很多中国人的叫法，可能受某培训机构的影响。我从没听美国人说v-ing是表伴随的，所以不认同这个。
就我给的这个例子来说，do all the prep questions和read OG压根就是两件独立的事（OG和Prep各是各的），这两件事是并列关系，可以同时发生，但不是咱说的“表伴随”。如果你要说你干了这两件事，就该用"and"表并列。Dickinson's letter那道题，(A)选项的"outnumbering ..."之所以不对，就是因为前后说了独立的两件事（前面说写于什么时间段，后面说数量超过什么什么），就好比前面说OG后面说prep。


"He read OG for eight times, hoping for a stellar GMAT score. "
这个句子才是说，"hoping for a stellar GMAT score"对于"read OG for eight times"来说，是个"simultaneous, but lower-priority, action" (by Ron)
说的是他本着什么样的目标刷OG，或者说刷OG的时候有啥想法。

或者这样：
He read OG, practicing over 500 questions.   （我们知道OG包括over 500 questions，所以"practicing over 500 questions"是补充说明解释"he read OG"）

vivi要有战斗力

同样的疑问，看了楼上的解答豁然开阔啊~~原来comma+ing还有这么多深意

savageprince

是不是comma+ving的形式作狀語，要麼表目的，要麼表結果啊？

玄冥太子

呀呀，现在才看到baby姐的回复。其实最近一直在看baby姐的日记，真心收获很大呢！看来Gmat最重要的还是对句意的理解！

iambigchan

如果 "He read OG for eight times, doing all the prep questions."  改成“ He practiced OG for eight times, reading them during Christmas."  这样子：reading 有错吗？

我这么改是觉得原题 前一部分讲她获得了17 speed records, 后面讲在什么时候earn 的。 貌似不会“前后无关” ？
我是菜鸟，望多多指导！！