[讨论]八月八号厦门gmat学习小组成立了！

tocean0222

以下是引用joywzy在2003-7-7 13:47:00的发言：
to tocean:

八月考试,现在阅读,一遍又一遍做GRE的阅读和GMAT的阅读,这种办法能提高吗?我心里一直有疑问的说.谢谢.

我觉得做上几遍阅读是很有必要的，但是每读一遍方法都要有进步，有点像练书法一样，停一段时间总结一下再继续，就会觉得上了个台阶。所以我认为每遍之间隔的时间不能太短，而且必须作些总结，这样再读的话感觉就不一样了，你的收获就更大。下面是我自己在阅读过程中的一些阶段的体会：

第一遍：茫然，以前的阅读方式，题目错一半左右；

第二遍：有了一点感觉，开始从syntax入手阅读，速度加快，正确率提高；

第三遍：开始对了文章有了整体和段落的把握，重视文章的结构和脉络，对题型进 行了些总结以便于定位和提高速度；

第四遍:  准备针对ets的出题特点，如对比，列举等有倾向的加以重视，并更注意文章的一些精彩之处，如一些usages;


大家是怎么准备阅读的，也谈谈你们的看法！

mike1999

可是这种感觉上水平的提高是否由于对文章的熟悉程度上升而带来的呢?如果我们是第一次看到陌生的段落和单词又怎么去留意整体段落和关键词呢?
我对于阅读题一向是只做一遍的,保持对陌生题目的感觉,现在我还有300-400道的GRE阅读没有完成.完成以后我打算做LSAT,对题目的总结我打算回到 GMAT题目上来.

mike1999

17. Using fossil energy more efficiently is in the interest of the nation and the global environment, but major improvements are unlikely unless proposed government standards are implemented to eliminate products or practices that are among the least efficient in their class. Objection: Decisions on energy use are best left to
the operation of the market.
Which one of the following, if true, most directly undermines the objection above?
(A) It would be unrealistic to expect society to make the changes necessary to achieve maximum energy efficiency all at once.
(B) There are products, such as automobiles, that consume energy at a sufficient rate that persons who purchase and use them will become conscious of any unusual energy inefficiency in comparison with other products in the same class.
(C) Whenever a new mode of generating energy, such as a new fuel, is introduced, a number of support systems, such as a fuel-distribution system, must be created or adapted.
(D) When energy prices rise, consumers of energy tend to look for new ways to increase energy efficiency, such as by adding insulation to their houses.
(E) Often the purchaser of a product, such as a landlord buying an appliance, chooses on the basis of purchase price because the purchaser is not the person who will pay for energy used by the product.
答案是E,我选A.为什么是E呢?我觉得A更象.E是什么意思?和题目怎么联系?
20. The report released by the interior ministry states that within the past 5 years the national land-reclamation program has resulted in a 19 percent increase in the amount of arable land within the country. If these figures are accurate, the program has been a resounding success. Senator Armand, a distinguished mathematician and a woman of indisputable brilliance, maintains, however, that the reclamation program could not possibly have been successful. Clearly, therefore, the figures cited in the
report cannot be accurate.
The argument above exhibits an erroneous pattern of reasoning most similar to that exhibited by which one of the following?
(A) Al bert' s f ather cl ai ms that Al bert does not know where the spare car keys are hidden. Yesterday, however, Albert reported that he had discovered the spare car keys in the garage toolbox, so his father's claim cannot
be true.
(B) Gloria's drama teacher claims that her policy is to give each student the opportunity to act in at least one play during the year but, since Gloria, who attended every class, reports that she was not given such an
opportunity, the teacher's claim cannot be true.
(C) Amos claims that he can hold his breath under water for a full hour. Dr. Treviso, a cardiopulmonary specialist, has stated that humans are physiologically incapable of holding their breath for even half that long;
so Amos' claim cannot be true.
(D) Evelyn reports that she got home before midnight. Robert, who always knows the time, insists that she did not. If Robert is right, Evelyn could not possibly have listened to the late news; since she admits not
having listened to the late news, her report cannot be true.
(E) Moira, after observing the finish of the 60-kilometer bicycle race, reports that Lee won with Adams a distant third. Lomas, a bicycle engineering expert, insists, however, that Lee could not have won a race in which Adams competed; so Moira's report cannot be true.
我是选择C,这道题的错误就是诉诸权威,为什么是E呢?C和E有什么区别?

albert

1... I think the problem of choice A exists in two words: " society" and "all at once"... the objection is discuss the effect of market, not society...this words make the choice out of scope...Further more, the objection is not saying that the energy waste can be eliminated "all at once"(immediately) , so Choice A is wrong

By indicating that comsumer will not consider the facor such as energy waste, choice E tell us that consumer will still use engery waste product as long as the price, which is the most important factor for them, is reasonable.. So we can not depend on market to eliminate the engergy waste product..

2. I think this problem is : trusting  inappropriate authority without giving any reason...the passage tell us that a mathematician say the report is incorrect without giving any reason.. though maths is a subject dealing with figure, it is irrelevant to the report.. without any specific reason, we should trust the report..however, if a science in agriculture tell us that this report is incorrect, maybe we can trust him because he is more relevant to the report..

So, I think this is the reason we don't choose C...because in choice C, the authority is relevant to the argument...

in E, how can a bycicle engineer give some predictions on the result of a race?? the race is more depends on the athletes, so we would rather trust the witness..

mike1999

谢谢Albert兄弟的解释.同意你的观点.献上清茶一杯: tea for two: http://music.stedu.net/xc/4/08.mp3

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tocean0222

以下是引用mike1999在2003-7-7 18:20:00的发言：
tocean,你的复习计划好象很全面了,我的lsat一遍还没有做好,你觉得要做两遍吗?另外,是不是我的lsat 版本不一样,17,20这两题是在section2里的,也就是另一个section.,是fossil energy和内政部那两题.
我错了1,9,16,19,21,23,24 这些题的section和讲草药的那个是同一个section, 再帮我看看吧,谢谢.

mike,
我也没作完阿，我还有2个section，作完咱们可以讨论一下，虽然作lsat收获不小，但我个人觉得没有必要作2遍了，原因有2：1）马上考试，时间不够了；2）lsat与ets有些题思路不一样，有比要回到gmat重温感觉；

呵呵，算了是找到你说的题了，在我这是section 4。17有点难，当时我也错了，不过后来看懂了，真的有点绕；

17、The arguer claims that goverment standards should be implemented in oder for efficient use of fossil energy, while objecters argues that use of energy is best left to the operation of market.If a choice provides evidence indicating the failure in making energy use efficiently only by market  rule, it will weaken the objection. So E,the only choice gives an example of such a failure, is the best answer.

20、Since the argument bases its conclusion on the view of a famous mathmatician,
it commits the fallacy of appealing to authority.In E,the arguer regard a true report as
unrealistic for a exper's insistence ,so commits the same fallacy.Thus,E is the answer.



good luck!

mike1999

以下是引用tocean0222在2003-7-7 23:49:00的发言：

mike,
我也没作完阿，我还有2个section，作完咱们可以讨论一下，虽然作lsat收获不小，但我个人觉得没有必要作2遍了，原因有2：1）马上考试，时间不够了；2）lsat与ets有些题思路不一样，有比要回到gmat重温感觉；

呵呵，算了是找到你说的题了，在我这是section 4。17有点难，当时我也错了，不过后来看懂了，真的有点绕；

17、The arguer claims that goverment standards should be implemented in oder for efficient use of fossil energy, while objecters argues that use of energy is best left to the operation of market.If a choice provides evidence indicating the failure in making energy use efficiently only by market  rule, it will weaken the objection. So E,the only choice gives an example of such a failure, is the best answer.

20、Since the argument bases its conclusion on the view of a famous mathmatician,
it commits the fallacy of appealing to authority.In E,the arguer regard a true report as
unrealistic for a exper's insistence ,so commits the same fallacy.Thus,E is the answer.



good luck!

多谢tocean,may god bless you!

albert

以下是引用mike1999在2003-7-7 23:44:00的发言：
谢谢Albert兄弟的解释.同意你的观点.献上清茶一杯: tea for two: http://music.stedu.net/xc/4/08.mp3

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thank you, mike..good tea..
what is the name of this tea?? who make it?

mike1999

its name is: "tea for two". You do like it, don't you? Please check:http://www.szsport.org/dispbbs.asp?boardID=55&ID=21300 and enjoy it!

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joywzy

以下是引用albert在2003-7-7 21:53:00的发言：
when you deal with the weaken CR, you should be very clear what is the evidence(sometimes it is principle or reason, anyway, I would like to call it evidence), what the conclusion, how the evidence support the conclusion...if you have made clear about such question, you have grasped the focus of such arguments, then you can easily eliminate some choice out of scope.  I would suggest that you ask yourself such questions everytime you analize a question...I believe after such pratice, you will get used to analyze question in this way and solve problem effectively..after you get the answer, you should also know that what sort of weaken skill it is using...such as 他因？切断GAP？否定ASSUMPTION？ ok..then 3 question before solving the problem, one question after solving the problem...you will be very clear then...

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albert,

these days when i dealt with the weaken questions in CXD,i do follow your suggestions, that is to distinguish the premise and conclusion. I believe that i can do that these days. But occasionally, i fail to discern the answer since i cannot relate the
choice to weakening reasoning. In other words, sometimes, i don't know why this is the answer.

Could u please give me some suggestions to tackle these questions?

Thanks in advance.