prep1 essay6到底在说什么？

siddevil

1楼分析的真好，脉络很清楚！

mapleaf

By narrowing his focus to village institutions and ignoring these critical differences, which studies by Greven, Demos, and Lockridge have shown to be so important, Allen has created a somewhat distorted picture of reality.
这句话 我有个小更正，毕竟1楼是为了说明整个文章的意思，对这个小细节没有在意。不应该翻译成 “G,D,L指出。。。。，”  

我来试着翻译一下:

通过缩窄对village institutions的关注 和 忽略G,D,L之前表明很重要的这些关键差异， Allen有些扭曲事实。 前面都是状语，Allen 是这句话的主语。

birdmiao

为什么19题不是选择B呢？最后一句不是说a mistake吗？

KIMMI0330

What conclusion can be drawn, for example, from Allen's discovery that Puritan clergy who had come to the colonies from East Anglia were one-third to one-half as likely to return to England by 1660 as were Puritan ministers from western and northern England?  We are not told in what way, if at all, this discovery illuminates historical understanding.
这段话什么意思呢??

tata9055

What conclusion can be drawn, for example, from Allen's discovery that Puritan clergy who had come to the colonies from East Anglia were one-third to one-half as likely to return to England by 1660 as were Puritan ministers from western and northern England?  We are not told in what way, if at all, this discovery illuminates historical understanding


我觉得这段话主要是说这个Discovery没什么用。即使说明了关于puritan的这样一个事实，但是没有什么用。而且也没告诉我们怎么用。
——拙见。

小甜菜的宝宝

We are not told in whatway, if at all, this discoveryilluminates historical understanding.  
我们不知道是何种方式，表示我们承认这个事实，只是这个没有被解释清楚，所以是fact。嘿嘿，看了讨论我才领悟这个小细节

cloudballoon

以下是我對一些文句的見解  但是不確定對不隊  希望大家一起來推敲推敲囉˙!!!!!!

What conclusion can be drawn, for example, from Allen's discovery that Puritan clergy who had come to the colonies from East Anglia were one-third to one-half as likely to return to England by 1660 as were Puritan ministers from western and northern England?   Studies of local history have enormously expanded our horizons, but it is a mistake for their authors to conclude that village institutions are all that mattered, simply because their functions are all that the records of village institutions reveal.

例如，從A的發現中啥結論可以下?(因為她的例子都太偏頗) A的發現是  清教徒神職人員從東英格蘭來到殖民地(NZ)在1660年回去的比例 與 那些從北部和西部英格蘭來再回去的比例  都是1/3~1/2之間 (也就是說隨然是從不同地區來的  但都是大概2.多人會回去1個人)  

我們無法以任何方式回答(找出結論) 即使 這個發現有闡明一些歷史上的理解  

區域性的歷史可以大大的開拓我們的視野， 但是 那些區域歷史的作者犯了一個錯 就是推定說村里機構都很重要 只是因為區域歷史的功能全都是由村里機構的紀錄揭露 (所以說太拘泥在這些細節上了 沒有宏觀的去觀察囉~)


另外， 想問下句要怎麼翻譯比較好!!!

the "country community" school of seventeenth-century English history

謝謝

lyx6117

读的时候也被school搞晕了，后来查了一下，a school of是指一个学派。

Vivian1091

看了大家的讨论，很受启发，一点拙见：

19，从作者的态度观点来看，对这个discovery的态度肯定是否定的，排除ACE.
What conclusion can be drawn, from Allen's discovery that ( Puritan clergy [who had come to the colonies from East Anglia] were one-third to one-half as likely to return to England by 1660 as were Puritan ministers from western and northern England ) ?这个句子是 个疑问句，what不是主语从句，what conclusion can be drawn from A’s discovery? We are not told in what way, if at all, this discovery illuminated historical understanding.
从A的发现中我们可以得出什么结论？，A的发现就是圆括号的一堆同位语从句中的东西。我们不知道用什么方法，如果我们知道用什么方法了，这个发现 就可以。。。
总结一下就是，我们知道发现的内容，圆括号，我们不知道从发现中可以得出什么结论，我们也不知道用什么方法可以得出这些结论。这个发现是个无法解释的，孤立的事实。无法解释，是因为不知道能得出啥结论。用什么方法。事实，是因为，作者并没有对发现内容本身做评价，或者否定，只是 说这个发现是孤立的，从中没办法延伸 出其他结论。

helenran

joannelu 发表于 2009-9-25 16:26
What conclusion can be drawn, for example, from Allen's discovery that Puritan clergy who had come t ...

谢谢~明白了