What is success

wlee226

以下是引用adios在2007-4-6 13:59:00的发言：

所以需要找根源。

都是谁，每次在那里无聊挑起院校争端？

都是谁，在那里添油加醋唯恐天下不乱？

都是谁，在那里不负责任没有任何数据地只凭自己印象造谣PHD数据？

又是谁，只敢用马甲上来骂战？

我最烦的，就是这种无聊的院校比较。

你自己去翻翻看, 是不是你在这个贴子里主动来攻击我的. 根源就是你!

wlee226

以下是引用西施贝贝在2007-4-6 21:42:00的发言：

Really?  You mean to say that no one had the common sense to know that unauthorized access of admissions results would be illegal and unethical??

That's like saying since I didn't know something is illegal, I shouldn't be punished for violating the law... that's ridiculous.

I think those who take unethical or illegal shortcuts in life should (and hopefully will) be justly punished.

你去扪心自问, 你自己是不是做过什么不ethical的事情, 那你早晚也该受到公正的惩罚? 你MBA找工作, 有没有对各个recruiter信誓旦旦说要去人家公司? 你后来又是怎么做的? 你道德吗? 你MBA申请里都是怎么写的? 你现在又是怎么做的? 你道德吗? 不要老是站在道德的至高点来压人, 先想想自己. 我就不信你是道德标兵.

eeyupyup

以下是引用glzhao在2007-4-6 22:00:00的发言：

I suspect that the person who posted it didn't really think to warn/remind the readers that this may in fact be illegal... so it could be argued that the advocate of illegal access bears at least some responsibility; of course, the bulk of the responsibility lie with those who didn't have the common sense/ethical standards to realize that this access was illegal/unethical.

He tried it himself. If he had thought it would hunt him later, I believe he wouldnt have tried it.

http://forum.chasedream.com/dispbbs.asp?BoardID=13&ID=96164&replyID=&skin=1

But I have to say it is very hard to justify if it is ethical, when hacking being so popular nowadays. It was quite dramatic at the end when Harvard punished all the hackers. I didnt beleive stanford and other schools did the same, did they? I might be wrong.

glzhao

以下是引用wlee226在2007-4-6 22:10:00的发言：

你去扪心自问, 你自己是不是做过什么不ethical的事情, 那你早晚也该受到公正的惩罚? 你MBA找工作, 有没有对各个recruiter信誓旦旦说要去人家公司? 你后来又是怎么做的? 你道德吗? 你MBA申请里都是怎么写的? 你现在又是怎么做的? 你道德吗? 不要老是站在道德的至高点来压人, 先想想自己. 我就不信你是道德标兵.

We all live with a clear conscience and know that I live by what I consider to be high ethical standards.  As MBA students, may of us have never told a company that we would definitely go work for them, we only tell them that we are interested in their company, and would be excited to join them or have the opportunity to work for them. We wrote essays expressing our interest in each school, and how we will make a good candidate for that school, and would like to join them if accepted. 

So at least I, for one, can honestly, without a single shred of conceit, tell you that I have been honest with my recruiters and the schools to which I applied.  So don't lecture us on ethics. 

I think 贝贝's point is valid, MBAs look for jobs and employers expect you to compare them against others, PhD advisors are professors who invest resources in you, and expect you to at least be honest and communicate your intentions with them on a timely basis.

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bettywushh

真是无语，TOP10的学校的学生的言行这么过激，一点都不包容，不懂得尊重，真让人失望。大家要是都像携隐MM那样就好了。携隐MM好意开了一个贴，先是变成感谢贴，现在又开始吵架了。

cryingpig07

强烈建议版主把这些没事找事，在这里吵架的家伙ID封杀掉。人家XY姐姐给广大CD无私奉献了这么多宝贵经验，你们这帮家伙好的不学，就在这里唧唧歪歪，冷嘲热讽的，真TMD给中国人丢脸！

[此贴子已经被作者于2007-4-6 23:33:00编辑过]

bettywushh

以下是引用cryingpig07在2007-4-6 23:32:00的发言：

强烈建议版主把这些没事找事，在这里吵架的家伙ID封杀掉。人家XY姐姐给广大CD无私奉献了这么多宝贵经验，你们这帮家伙好的不学，就在这里唧唧歪歪，冷嘲热讽的，真TMD给中国人丢脸！

还给他们的学校丢脸，真不应该。

ddtt

以下是引用bettywushh在2007-4-6 23:09:00的发言：

真是无语，TOP10的学校的学生的言行这么过激，一点都不包容，不懂得尊重，真让人失望。大家要是都像携隐MM那样就好了。携隐MM好意开了一个贴，先是变成感谢贴，现在又开始吵架了。

MM不要上火,其实这是本来面目

跟TOP10不TOP10没有很大关系的

携隐

吵架告一段落。大家继续讨论正题吧。

cheeyong

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