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长江2005学费22万RMB

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31#
发表于 2005-2-17 10:57:00 | 只看该作者

长江好象还没有获得国际权威认证吧?

找的也是一帮走穴的教授吧??

32#
发表于 2005-2-17 11:56:00 | 只看该作者

For a good B-school, we do not care how high the tuition is.

For a stupid B-school, we do not care how high the scholarship is.

33#
发表于 2005-2-17 14:05:00 | 只看该作者

CKGSB is a start up so it needs time to be recognized as an important player. Mr. Li Ka-shing is giving back to help the community and we should applaude his long-term vision. What makes a great business school?

1. top notch faculty

2. top notch students and a successful and influential alumni network

3. top notch administration, facility including admissions, placement and corporate center.

With Li's money and influence, it will be easier for him to get the first two quickly. however, the last one is harder as no one in China had the experience of building a top business school so everything has to start from scratch. I guess that is what a start-up is supposed to be.

34#
发表于 2005-2-17 15:44:00 | 只看该作者
本来还想给长江说说好话,现在却被它又抢劫了好几万。 去不去读呢?该不会逼我申请中欧吧?
35#
发表于 2005-2-17 15:54:00 | 只看该作者
大家可不可以打中文,看着方便。偶读得累死了。
36#
发表于 2005-2-17 18:10:00 | 只看该作者
以下是引用grossman在2005-2-17 14:05:00的发言:

CKGSB is a start up so it needs time to be recognized as an important player. Mr. Li Ka-shing is giving back to help the community and we should applaude his long-term vision. What makes a great business school?


1. top notch faculty


2. top notch students and a successful and influential alumni network


3. top notch administration, facility including admissions, placement and corporate center.


With Li's money and influence, it will be easier for him to get the first two quickly. however, the last one is harder as no one in China had the experience of building a top business school so everything has to start from scratch. I guess that is what a start-up is supposed to be.


这位长江的托,到目前为止你一直在吹嘘长江如何如何的好,但都没有令人信服的根据。你一会儿吹嘘长江,一会儿又用什么 just start up 来为长江开脱,叫人如何相信你。到目前为止长江的两界学生中,就有不少人对你所谓的 top notch 的东东颇有微词。长江能找到你这样的托也说明它的 stupid


For a good B-school, we do not care how high the tuition is.


For a stupid B-school, we do not care how high the scholarship is.


[此贴子已经被作者于2005-2-17 18:11:59编辑过]
37#
发表于 2005-2-17 20:55:00 | 只看该作者
以下是引用CKGSB_MBA2005在2005-2-17 15:44:00的发言:
本来还想给长江说说好话,现在却被它又抢劫了好几万。 去不去读呢?该不会逼我申请中欧吧?

连你这样的死党都倒戈了。。长江真的没希望了。。

哈哈哈。。。

不好长江正因为我相信长江愚蠢的提高学费会吓跑一群好的学生。。。而好的学生才是一个商学院成功的基础

38#
发表于 2005-2-17 20:56:00 | 只看该作者
以下是引用cat87101在2005-2-17 11:56:00的发言:

For a good B-school, we do not care how high the tuition is.


For a stupid B-school, we do not care how high the scholarship is.



讲得有道理!!!!
39#
 楼主| 发表于 2005-2-17 21:35:00 | 只看该作者
以下是引用grossman在2005-2-17 0:33:00的发言:

With the exception of London Business School and Insead, Europe does not have any good business schools. Insead has been around for only 40 years.


CK cannot compete with the US top 25 business schools now. However, in the near future, with the commitment of Li Ka-Shin foundation, CKGSB should be comparable with reasonable US public schools such as Ohio State, Penn State, Michigan State.


If you can get in LBS, Insead or top 25 US schools, then you should go there. If you get admitted in schools such as OSU, PSU, MSU, then CK could be a better choice for some people.


Again, I do not think we should feel so inferior relative to US or Europe. Yes, we are not as good now in terms of our economy. However, we need to put things in perspective and do not be short-sighted. China had enoyed a superior economy in most of the last two thousand years with the exception of the last three hundred. If China keeps developing at the current speed, we should be an equal player with US and Europe in about fifty years. Remember, it took Han Dynasty 70 years to develop and eventually beat the Huns out of Northern China. Europeans and Americans will be humming to come over to China to study then.


What I like about CK is its ambition, self-respect and self-confidence. CK's root is in china and it demands all the permanent faculties to spend 100% of their time in China. We Chinese are as good as Europeans or Americans. With a good system, we can perform as well. We can. We must. We will. Of course, Rome is not built overnight and only time will tell if CK is successful.


For people who think 220,000 RMB is too high, you probably should contact the admissions office to see if there could be help with scholarships or zero-interest loans. US schools oftern provide student loans or scholarships for qualified individuals.



honestly and personally, i do think these words make some senses to some extends, at least for the good English expression and logic reasoning...haha...


the problem is that he/she stands for a completely wrong position, which is so called CK...haha...my dear, share with you the following words,


出师未捷身先死,长使英雄泪满巾.

40#
发表于 2005-2-17 22:16:00 | 只看该作者

长江在定学费的时候,应该是认真考虑到了生源的博弈选择了。

个人的一点愚见如下:

对一个中国学生,恰好五年的工作经验,有很多人最后一年的月薪达1-1.5万,那么五年下来,可以积蓄10万元我想问题不大,但极少的人能达到22万。如果能挣那么多钱,这些人可能会考虑要不要去读MBA了。

也就是说,需要向别人/银行借钱,至少10万。

或者是学生的工作年限更多,6-10年才能积余到这么多钱。但如果是工作年限超过5年,则很多人都要结婚买房,买房成了这些人的负累,需要还银行按揭。依然需要借钱。

这使得绝大部分人都要借钱去读书了。

不过,我希望22万对长江不要有负面影响。依然期望它能成长,为中国培养出更多的高端商业人才。

感觉:长江有点儿急躁!须戒!

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