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支持mindfree,选C！B无关！

kittyv

选b  同意选b的同学的说法。
c 个人觉得讨论是stronger与否已经是outside the scope了
另外，supersede也不代表就是misleading了选民哦。

naiwu

添一楼：

争论在BC之间。

我的观点：此题的outline:

Petition: for a state law banning smoking in most retail establishments and in government offices that are open to the public

Question asked: endorse a statewide smoking restriction? (Retail establishments and government are not mentioned!)

Voters: expect that the proposal is an extension of the local ordinances to statewide (since there are already local antismoking ordinances.)

What does misleading imply? In Longman, misleading refers to likely to make someone believe something that is not true; In MW, to mislead is to lead into a wrong belief or wrong impression.

To qualify the petition as misleading, one must establish that voters endorse the petition because they regard this petition as extending the local ordinances statewide, while the truth is that this petition is far from an extension of local ordinances.

As for B, rural areas have few retail establishments and government offices. If any local antismoking ordinances are in effect in these areas, they are expected to be different, from those in other areas, in bans in retail establishments or government offices. Thus, while the voters in rural areas support the petition, since they tend to expect the petition to be merely an extension, they may not endorse a ban in most retail establishments and government offices. That is misleading! However, the validity of this argument relies fundamentally on the assumption that the rural antismoking ordinances concerning the places in question are quite different.

As for C, if local ordinance was replaced by state law, which is looser than local ordinance, then the voters who endorse the petition in light of considering the petition an extension will find themselves misled because the state law is not an exact extension of their local ordinance. This argument is subject to no questionable assumption, as is the one in B.

Conclusion: C is correct.

夜凉如水

Do you want to sign a petition for statewide smoking restriction?

本来选择C的 现在支持B了 关键在于组织者的口号，C的 stonger bans是无关的。

tonyyuan

支持！！应该是E，要好好读题！

因为问题已经告诉我们：下面5种情况都是事实，已经存在----不是杜撰的！问题是问在这5种事实面前，那种能导致人误解！

当然是E了，因为大家都已经知道地方法比州法更严，而游行团的口号是：你希不希望在全州禁烟？如果群众是禁烟支持者，作为了解本地方法令和全州法令的公民，他当然希望把比州法更严的地方法推广到全州去！

但是如果他投了票，那么他其实是被误导了，因为游行团的目的其实不是要推广本地法律到全州，而只是题干中的两类公共场所禁烟而已----这比地方发限制的地方要少！所以misleading了！

singdeath

看完了20页的讨论，跟着前辈NN的足迹一思考下来， 觉得B对。以下是我的小市民见解：

先看问题：

1。 问题问的是对于voters来说misleading（misleading to voters）。所以请站在voters的角度思考这题。voters关心什么？当然是自己参与的请愿有没有被通过，还有请愿通过后实行的法律是不是和自己当初希望的一样。

2。是什么misleading呢？是voters看到的请愿书的内容（the petition as circulated）。也就是说，如果我走在街上，有人问我要不要参加请愿实施全州禁烟。那么我所看到的petition的内容就是是否全州禁烟（yes or no）。至于哪些场所禁烟，是不是跟我们local法律规定的一样，是不是比我们local的法律更严格，我一概没看到, 也不知道有那么回事。

再看B选项：

3。后来请愿据说通过了，全州禁烟开始实施了。那么怎样的情况会让我觉得当初的请愿书misleading／骗人呢？当初说全州禁烟。可是某些人钻了个小空子，搞到后来，不是整个州都禁烟。也就是说，州里有些地方不在新法律覆盖的范围里。新法律颁布了以后我才知道，哦，原来只是本州所有商场和政府办公处禁烟。可是我们农村很多地方根本就没有这两种场所，所以严格意义上讲，法律根本不能在整个洲的范围内实施。实际上只在一小部分地方实施了。所以，从这个意义上讲，B正确。

来看C选项：

4。法律实施后，我知道原来州法律还没有我所在的城市法律管的严。所以现在禁烟禁得还没有以前彻底。所以我很不服气“这也算禁烟啊？”我开始怀疑当初请愿的时候那人真够阴险的。我还准备找他算账，当面质问他“你当初是不是耍我？”。我总得想个理由吧？于是我回想：当初他问我是不是支持全州禁烟？我说支持。那好，法律通过了我们的提议，实行全州禁烟了。那现在这个禁烟法律是不是在整个洲都有效？是啊，没有不能被法律覆盖得到的地方！这不就结了？既然当初他问我的所有条件现在都已经兑现了，我还找他算什么帐呢？当初他又没说新的州法律会和我们城市的法律规定一样的禁烟场所，也没说这两个法律严格程度会一样或不一样。所以当初他给我看的请愿书，相比现在的现实而言，不算骗人／misleading。

所以，我支持B正确。

恺撒的荣耀

注意题目里的：

Which of the following circumstances would make the petition as circulated misleading to voters who understand the proposal as extending the local ordinances statewide?

坚决支持C！

第1次看一个帖子花了4小时！

恺撒的荣耀

感谢各位讨论的同学，

尤其感谢

anyname，mindfree,laywer....

吴羽若

以下是引用恺撒的荣耀在2008-11-11 2:16:00的发言：

注意题目里的：

Which of the following circumstances would make the petition as circulated misleading to voters who understand the proposal as extending the local ordinances statewide?

坚决支持C！

第1次看一个帖子花了4小时！

目前同意这个说法~

哎~看帖子的时候我的立场变来变去的，现在总结后想一想还是倾向于C多点，不知道会不会又墙头草了以后~