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G-CRACKER

白砂，BF1到底是I, three percent of current retail sales falls short of the amount raised for schools by property taxes. 还是II, Critics protest that three percent of current retail sales falls short of the amount raised for schools by property taxes.？

如果是 I 的话，那么它是一个fact, 是绝对正确的，可以作为充当claim/objection，藕上面的分析有误，其实A,B,C,E的BF1的解释都是对的。但A,B,C对于BF2的解释不对，首先BF1是一个事实，A排除；作者并没有提出一个alternative plan，B排除。最后，作者认可BF1的原因仅仅因为它是一个事实，并没有用BF2来支持，C排除。E说的有些勉强。即BF2是一个对未来的预测，是对现状的补充，不是否定。

如果是II 的话，它是批评者的论证，正是作者要反驳的，因此只有A,D的BF1的解释是对的。关于BF2，藕觉得A说的也对，但如果具体到“play 了什么role“这个角度;BF2在文中主要不是一个预测，而是用于反对BF1的主要论据。基于这一点，D对。

继续讨论。

Maggieyin

“E.   The first is a claim that the argument accepts with certain reservations; the second presents that claim in a rewarding that is not subject to those reservations.  
如果2个claim是指同一个的话, 那么划线部分的意思就不对了.”

第一部分是文章作者有所保留地接受的一个主张，第二部分显示这一主张不受那些保留成分的约束，是令人满意的。

请指正！

Maggieyin

up! up!

beautywawa

以下是引用G-CRACKER在2004-12-14 23:23:00的发言：

白砂，BF1到底是I, three percent of current retail sales falls short of the amount raised for schools by property taxes. 还是II, Critics protest that three percent of current retail sales falls short of the amount raised for schools by property taxes.？

如果是 I 的话，那么它是一个fact, 是绝对正确的，可以作为充当claim/objection，藕上面的分析有误，其实A,B,C,E的BF1的解释都是对的。但A,B,C对于BF2的解释不对，首先BF1是一个事实，A排除；作者并没有提出一个alternative plan，B排除。最后，作者认可BF1的原因仅仅因为它是一个事实，并没有用BF2来支持，C排除。E说的有些勉强。即BF2是一个对未来的预测，是对现状的补充，不是否定。

如果是II 的话，它是批评者的论证，正是作者要反驳的，因此只有A,D的BF1的解释是对的。关于BF2，藕觉得A说的也对，但如果具体到“play 了什么role“这个角度;BF2在文中主要不是一个预测，而是用于反对BF1的主要论据。基于这一点，D对。

继续讨论。

嗯,,我本來選D.可是看看GG的解釋再想想,,還是E好些..

因為這題bf是屬於GG寫的第一種,,,

hpp920

这题我做的时候选的A.我和白沙的想法一样:implementing the plan will probably not reduce the money going to Aroca’s schools.这句应该是main conclusion.D和 E的第二句有问题.

open to discussion.

kingsoft

         i vote for A

         

Aroca City currently funds its public schools through taxes on property.  In place of this

system, the city plans to introduce a sales tax of three percent on all retail sales in the city. Critics protest that three percent of current retail sales falls short of the amount

raised for schools by property taxes.  The critics are correct on this point.  Nevertheless, implementing the plan will probably not reduce the money going to Aroca’s schools.

Several large retailers have sele cted Aroca City as the site for huge new stores, and these are certain to draw large numbers of shoppers from neighboring municipalities, where

sales are taxed at rates of six percent and more.  In consequence, retail sales in Aroca

City are bound to increase substantially.

In the argument given, the two potions in boldface play which of the following roles?

D.  The first is a claim that the argument seeks to refute; the second is the main point used by the argument to show that the claim is false.

       "to show that the claim is false." contradicts  the conclusion of argument(will probably not reduce the money )

E.   The first is a claim that the argument accepts with certain reservations; the second presents that claim in a rewarding that is not subject to those reservations.

       "a rewarding that is not subject to those reservations." is flase

        the intention of the author is to refute the opinion of  critics, not to qualify it

         open to discussion

[此贴子已经被作者于2005-1-5 11:54:54编辑过]

windweed

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laceName w:st="on">ArocalaceName> laceType w:st="on">CitylaceType> currently funds its public schools through taxes on property.  In place of thissystem, the city plans to introduce a sales tax of three percent on all retail sales in the city. Critics protest that three percent of current retail sales falls short of the amount raised for schools by property taxes.  The critics are correct on this point.  Nevertheless, implementing the plan will probably not reduce the money going to Aroca’s schools. Several large retailers have selected laceName w:st="on">ArocalaceName> laceType w:st="on">CitylaceType> as the site for huge new stores, and these are certain to draw large numbers of shoppers from neighboring municipalities, where sales are taxed at rates of six percent and more.  In consequence, retail sales in Aroca City are bound to increase substantially.

In the argument given, the two potions in boldface play which of the following roles?

A.  The first is an objection that has been raised against a certain plan; the second is a prediction that, if accurate, undermines the force of that objection..

   第二句是prediction    理由:  1)"implementing the plan will probably not reduce"

                                                  2)In consequence, retail sales in Aroca City are bound to increase substantially. 是对于Several large retailers have selected Aroca City as the site for huge new stores, and these are certain to draw large numbers of shoppers from neighboring municipalities这个现象的prediction. 并不是事实.

D.  The first is a claim that the argument seeks to refute; the second is the main point used by the argument to show that the claim is false.

    作者并没有说the first claim 是错的. 理由: 1) The critics are correct on this point

                                                                            2) implementing the plan will probably not reduce

E.   The first is a claim that the argument accepts with certain reservations; the second presents that claim in a rewarding that is not subject to those reservations.

      第一句是对的, 第二句 claim in a rewarding  is not subject to those reservation 有点看不明白什么意思. 但感觉reservation 是作者不同意的地方, 如果是这样一来, 第二句说的present that claim in a rewarding that is not subject to those reservations就变成了作者不去反驳他认为可疑的地方了. 和原文意思相反.

看懂E的表达是关键. 请NN 看看我说的对不对.

liu_9000

支持A

D应该不对. 理由楼上的各位说的很清楚.

E看不懂a rewarding什么意思. rewarding查出来是形容词. 那位懂的XDJM能够解释一下?

反对A的理由主要是objection. 开始我也认为BF1不能是objection, 但查字典objection不但有"反对"的意思, 还有"反对的理由"的含义. BF1当作反对的理由, 大家应该没有异议吧?

另外,  偶认为BF2是sub-conclusion, 也是prediction,

skyalan

仔细看了看,别忘了这句话the critics are correct on this point. 分析一下感觉应该是E

pp_honey

看了讨论，再仔细分析， 觉得E有道理！