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joe11

Thanks, Leeon.

I don't know whether you've read the explaination of the CR questions in OG. I read the first 10 questions today and I already have something doubtful. Here is the link. Please give me some directions. Thanks.

http://forum.chasedream.com/dispbbs.asp?boardid=24&id=73049&star=1#644879

leeon

One diffcult question from LSAT to discuss, and welcome more GMAT cracker to attend the discussion.

A work of architecture, if it is to be both inviting and functional for public use, must be unobtrusive, taking second place to the total environment. Modern architects, plagued by egoism, have violated this precept. They have let their strong personalities take over their work, producing buildings that are not functional for public use.

Which one of the statements below follows logically from the statements in the passage?

(A) Unobtrusive architecture is both inviting and functional.

(B) Modern architects who let their strong personalities take over their work produce buildings that are not unobtrusive.

(C) An architect with a strong personality cannot produce buildings that functional well for the public.

(D) A work of architecture that takes second place to the environment functions well for public use.

(E) A work of architecture cannot simultaneously express its architect’s personality and be functional for public use.

valarie

以下是引用joe11在2004-10-10 13:30:00的发言：

holly jesus, everyone is doing LSAT, I've never done it before.

怎么欧有落后了。逻辑有这么夸张么？别吓我。

建议先讨论一下OG 阅读，

1。阅读过程：什么时候快，何时慢；转折的注意； 在什么地方期待问题的出现；

Ok. My personal view. I first look at how long the article is. Usually for 40-line article, I just read them all through and do not need to make any notes. Because it's not long, so you can remember it as long as you understand it. For the detail questions, even though I may remmeber the answer, I will refer back to the article and make sure I'll pick up the right answer.

For longer passagers, I will make sure I understand the main idea of the passage (not just to answer the main idea questions but the structures, people's opinion, and some other important information). And I will skip those infomation such as a detailed procession, the detailed reason (I only pay attention to how many the reasons and where they are in the passage), the detailed description of a certain term etc etc. For example, if the passage talked about A disagrees with B, you only need to understand this but do not need to remember the very detail of A or B.

In real test, because the longer article only have 4 questions (usually there must be one main idea question), so left with 3 you need to deal with. Usually they like to ask (what happens prior 1880? what's the similarity, the comparison, the obvious paradox, the last paragraphe and sentences, etc..)

2。解体过程：为什么要排除改选项；怎么定位（没有转折词是照原句，有转折词时往上下文找）

                          正确选项有特征么，是通过改写原文，还是概括原文，还是...

This is a hard question because it's not possible to conclude a universal rule. I don't understand what you mean by "排除改选项". The basic correct choice would be include only the information you 've seen in the article or you can directly infer from the passage. Also be very careful about the choices containing (most, best , zui gaoji). Unless it was stated clearly in the passage, you don't want to pick it. Also, Xiao's An's tip "eliminate choices containing unrelated information" is very helpful. Such as if the passage only talks about an efficient way to find the gold mine, you don't want to pick any choices that says about some method is cheaper in getting a gold mine.

I hope it's helpful

valarie

BTW, mumuwa's example is very good. You can use her way to deal with most of the question. But I didn't try the "逻辑简图"

joe11

先感谢 n 下 Valarie.        n → + ∞                

基本上是，文章看明白了，便没问题了。呵呵

理论看来指导完了，下面就看实践了。

又看了15 个 OG 的        CR 解释，基本结构如下：

                OG 上来先把题干总结性重说一边，保证我等明白他上文说了什么。

                然后说如果那个那个队的话，结论便成立了。于是，那个那个便是最佳选择。 第一段结束。

                第二段，简单说一下 out of scope 的其他选项和答非所问的选项。 没了。

好像我自己都知道其他选项为什么错了。搞得我看了半天没个长进。

谁还有对此更深刻的理解？快指教一下。

Leeon 的每日一题真爽。先谢你个365天，后面那天忘了别贬欧。

[此贴子已经被作者于2004-10-11 11:38:05编辑过]

leeon

Most of the logic questions based on reading. U did the questions you have understood. So u could not get any improvement.

joe11

以下是引用leeon在2004-10-11 10:53:00的发言：

One diffcult question from LSAT to discuss, and welcome more GMAT cracker to attend the discussion.

这题真难！

A work of architecture, if it is to be both inviting and functional for public use, must be unobtrusive, taking second place to the total environment. Modern architects, plagued by egoism, have violated this precept. They have let their strong personalities take over their work, producing buildings that are not functional for public use.

首先，保证欧把问题读懂了。taking second place to the total environment 是

修饰 A work of architecture，讲 A work of architecture 首先要unobtrusive，对应 inviting and functional, 其次（第二）要考虑total environment。

Which one of the statements below follows logically from the statements in the passage?  问可推出什么结论。

(A) Unobtrusive architecture is both inviting and functional.

       逆命题， 错。

(B) Modern architects who let their strong personalities take over their work produce buildings that are not unobtrusive.

     如果我对别的选项排除的都没错的话，这个应该是答案。

(C) An architect with a strong personality cannot produce buildings that functional well for the public.

     cannot 错。只要不要让 personality take over their work 就行了么。

(D) A work of architecture that takes second place to the environment functions well for public use.

    错，如果 first place 是能抵抗地震或防止核武器袭击，而不是

    unobtrusive，照样不行。

(E) A work of architecture cannot simultaneously express its architect’s personality and be functional for public use.

     cannot 错。只要不要让 personality take over their work 就行了么。

leeon

Joe11, your analysis is perfectly correct!

We can get the answer B by ruling out other choices. But why B is correct? maybe we can take a deep consideration.

I think it would help us to do the type of the same question.

joe11

你说得太对了。我对 B 的推理感觉不够严密。

原文讲 producing buildings that are not functional for public use,

而从 not functional 到not unobtrusive 还得有个过程，但 B 并没有说明这一点。

所以不能一槌子砸定。看看别的感觉逻辑漏洞更多，所以只好选它了。

如果我对原文没理解错的话， unobtrusive 是类似美学概念，而 functional 是技术活，

差别还是不小的。

你看呢？

蓝羽

周六周日两天没上网，就错过了这么多的讨论。仔仔细细的学习了一遍，有收获。

joe11说的“排除改选项”应该是“排除该选项”吧。我的理解。