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泾渭不凡

善良好心滴姑娘，苏里加油~

babybearmm

我们看Bible的进度差不多啊~看你的总结真亲切
suri dd加油~

Suri在奋斗

善良好心滴姑娘，苏里加油~

-- by 会员 泾渭不凡 (2012/1/28 2:36:33)

饭饭也加油~~嘿嘿，我们一起讨论题目哈~~~！！！

Suri在奋斗

我们看Bible的进度差不多啊~看你的总结真亲切
suri dd加油~

-- by 会员 babybearmm (2012/1/28 7:47:59)

本来昨天还愁到底看不看下去，发现时间不够嘛，姐姐这么说，我还是看~~逻辑og有一个中文翻译，我觉得看比看og答案好，有种逻辑链的感觉

babybearmm

我个人建议，真的，丢掉中文的吧，养成用英文进行逻辑思维的习惯。

因为很多英文词汇翻译成中文词汇，意思不贴切的。你看别人把OG翻译成中文的版本，必然就不是原汁原味。就像SC里面的什么"when compared to" (WRONG)，什么"so that"，"by which"，if/when的区别。
举个例子"because of"。中文可以说，例如，“因为gc党，我们有了新中国”，但你要翻译成"Because of the  Rep Party, ...."，这在严格的GMAT逻辑上就是错的，GMAT认为"gc党"作为一个具体的事物，不能作为reason，而是"gc党干了什么什么”才能作为reason。你发现过GMAT的SC正确句子里面，because of后面的名词都是什么样子的吧？例如"negligence"，这算是所谓的action verb，用一个词概括了一个行为，而行为可以作为reason；例如"difficulty of ..."，这相当于用一个词difficulty来概括了"sth is difficult"这个意思，而这就能构成reason。另外有些名词如finding, result, rule等等也可以作为reason。
扯远了，反正我想说，建议直接上英文，不要想着做题的时候翻译成中文来理解。

我们看Bible的进度差不多啊~看你的总结真亲切
suri dd加油~

-- by 会员 babybearmm (2012/1/28 7:47:59)

本来昨天还愁到底看不看下去，发现时间不够嘛，姐姐这么说，我还是看~~逻辑og有一个中文翻译，我觉得看比看og答案好，有种逻辑链的感觉

-- by 会员 Suri在奋斗 (2012/1/28 11:59:01)

Suri在奋斗

好的，我还是缺少一种仔细的精神，看姐姐回答语法版块的题目时候经常温习manhattan中的小点，还是惭愧，笔记坐在那儿是要经常翻经常回忆的呀，还需要改进，改进！！

我个人建议，真的，丢掉中文的吧，养成用英文进行逻辑思维的习惯。

因为很多英文词汇翻译成中文词汇，意思不贴切的。你看别人把OG翻译成中文的版本，必然就不是原汁原味。就像SC里面的什么"when compared to" (WRONG)，什么"so that"，"by which"，if/when的区别。
举个例子"because of"。中文可以说，例如，“因为gc党，我们有了新中国”，但你要翻译成"Because of the  Rep Party, ...."，这在严格的GMAT逻辑上就是错的，GMAT认为"gc党"作为一个具体的事物，不能作为reason，而是"gc党干了什么什么”才能作为reason。你发现过GMAT的SC正确句子里面，because of后面的名词都是什么样子的吧？例如"negligence"，这算是所谓的action verb，用一个词概括了一个行为，而行为可以作为reason；例如"difficulty of ..."，这相当于用一个词difficulty来概括了"sth is difficult"这个意思，而这就能构成reason。另外有些名词如finding, result, rule等等也可以作为reason。
扯远了，反正我想说，建议直接上英文，不要想着做题的时候翻译成中文来理解。

我们看Bible的进度差不多啊~看你的总结真亲切
suri dd加油~

-- by 会员 babybearmm (2012/1/28 7:47:59)

本来昨天还愁到底看不看下去，发现时间不够嘛，姐姐这么说，我还是看~~逻辑og有一个中文翻译，我觉得看比看og答案好，有种逻辑链的感觉

-- by 会员 Suri在奋斗 (2012/1/28 11:59:01)

-- by 会员 babybearmm (2012/1/28 12:47:20)

Suri在奋斗

bible真的很细，建议边看边结合着前辈的总结看，这样有选择性取舍哪些重要

xeyyxzty

Suri加油~

我当时看BIBLE真是囫囵吞枣~

Suri在奋斗

Chapter 3 the question stem and answer choice

1.the question stem----gmat question stems cover a range of tasks ,and will variously ask you to
identify details of the stimulus
describe the structure of the agreement
strengthen or weaken the argument
identify inferences ,main point,and assumptions
recognize errors of reasoning
reconcile conflicts
find argument that are identical and in structure

Primary Object 5:Carefully read and identify the question stem .Do not assume that certain words are automatically associated with certain question type


2.Question Types
1.must be true                     6.weaken  
2.main point                         7.method of reasoning
3.assumptions                      8.flaw in the reasoning
4.strengthen                        9.parallel reasoning
5.Resolve the paradox         10.evaluate the argument

The most popular question types are  weaken ,must be true ,assumption.strengthen,and resolve

3.Three families

All question types are variations of three main point question families,and each family is comprised of question types that are similar to each other

Family #1: Prove       Stimulus→ Answer Choice    Type: 1, 2, 7, 8, 9
Family #2: Help    Answer Choice→ Stimulus    Type: 3, 4, 5
Family #3: Hurt    Answer Choice→ Stimulus    Type: 6

the first family
1. You must accept the stimulus information- even if it contains an error of reasoning- and use it to prove that one of the answer choices must be true.
2. Any information in an answer choice that does not appear either directly in the stimulus or as a combination of items in the stimulus will be incorrect.
P.s. Often we see in question stem “The information above, if true, …”

the second family
1. The information in the stimulus is suspect. There are often reasoning errors present, and depending on the question, you will help shore up the argument in some way.
2. The answer choices are accepted as given, even if they include “new” information. Your task is to determine which answer choice best meets the question posed in the stem.
P.s. Often, we see in question stem “Which of the following, if true, … ”


the third family
1. The information in the stimulus is suspect. There are often reasoning error present, and you will further weaken the argument in some way.
2. The answer choices are accepted as given, even if they include “new” information. Your task is to determine which answer choice best attacks the argument in the stimulus.

In very rough terms,the part at the start of the arrow is taken for granted and the part at the end of the arrow is under suspiciou.


4.Question type notes
(1)Must be true and resolve the paradox questions的题干通常不包括结论
(2)weaken and strengthen are polar opposite question types and both are often based on flawed or weak argument that contains holes that must be closed or opended further
(3）Main point ,method of resolving ,flow in the reasoning ,parallel reasoning and evaluate the argument appear the least frequntly on gmat

5.most question
even though most will appear in many stems ,you can rest assured that only one answer choice will meet the criteria

6.“Except” & “Least” in Question Stems
“Except” here does not mean polar opposite. “Except” means “other than”, when a “weaken EXCEPT” question stem appears, you are asked to find any answer choice other than weaken. (Could strengthen the argument or simply have no effect on the argument.)
   对于except, least, most这类题，一般可以认为正确选项是没有满足加强或减弱结论的要求，换句话说，也就是不需要从正确的程度上来选择。
 E.g. which of the following, if true, most strengthen the conclusion, EXCEPT?
考虑答案时，我们直接选择没有strengthen conclusion的那一项即可，而不需要看选项支持的程度。GMAC选择用MOST,LEAST这些词语，只是为了避免选项引起的争议。


The word “least” has a similar effect to “except”, when it appears in a question stem
weaken/strengthen X


7.GMAT里面的logical opposite 不同于我们日常中的polar opposite,例如 wet 在GMAC里的logical opposite 不是dry,而应该是not wet.还有几个比较常用的：all---not all; some---none; always—not always; sometimes---never; everywhere—not everywhere; somewhere--nowhere；only one(exactly one)---none(more than once)



Objective6: Prephase: After reading the question stem, take a moment to mentally formulate your answer to the question stem.

Objective7: Always read each of the five answer choices.
Objective8: Separate the answer choices into Contenders and Losers. After completing this process, review the Contenders and decide which answer is the correct one.
Objective9: If all five answer choices appear to be Losers, return to the stimulus and re-evaluate the argument.






结合了daisy和bat总结的~~

Suri在奋斗

Suri加油~

我当时看BIBLE真是囫囵吞枣~

-- by 会员 xeyyxzty (2012/1/28 22:06:57)

我也在囫囵吞枣捏，我觉得bible是仔细的太多鸟，有些primary object一句话就能说清楚啦，还一整段话来说，我就基本跳过，看最核心，接下来几章就是，结合着daisy和bat NN 总结的那份~~加油！！