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31#
 楼主| 发表于 2011-10-11 11:57:54 | 只看该作者
第二部分的第15篇 P148 文章的七经八脉里解释说,这时的工会和领导没什么区别,甚至工会还总会对公司的目标有消极的帮助。我觉得把passive support翻译成“消极的帮助”不如译成“被动支持”,前者好像有点歧义的说,好像是对公司的目标起反作用一样呢~~另外后面那句我没看懂,请楼主点拨下:In 1986, however, a caucus led by the Foreman's Association forced the union's leadership out of office and returned the union's policy to one of passive cooperation.
-- by 会员 my8822180 (2011/10/10 22:25:22)


你想问什么哈?这句话怎么翻译? 就是前面不是说,early 1980s的工会组织都是在公司内部的么,领导就是公司中层干部什么的(反正是在公司内的),这句话意思是一个东西强迫工会的领导在公司之外了。
32#
发表于 2011-10-11 14:44:45 | 只看该作者
第二部分的第15篇 P148 文章的七经八脉里解释说,这时的工会和领导没什么区别,甚至工会还总会对公司的目标有消极的帮助。我觉得把passive support翻译成“消极的帮助”不如译成“被动支持”,前者好像有点歧义的说,好像是对公司的目标起反作用一样呢~~另外后面那句我没看懂,请楼主点拨下:In 1986, however, a caucus led by the Foreman's Association forced the union's leadership out of office and returned the union's policy to one of passive cooperation.
-- by 会员 my8822180 (2011/10/10 22:25:22)



你想问什么哈?这句话怎么翻译? 就是前面不是说,early 1980s的工会组织都是在公司内部的么,领导就是公司中层干部什么的(反正是在公司内的),这句话意思是一个东西强迫工会的领导在公司之外了。
-- by 会员 glhelr (2011/10/11 11:57:54)

关键是后面这半句:and returned the union's policy to one of passive cooperation,这是神马意思?是说他们强制要求工会的政策被动合作?这一部分整体的逻辑我还是不太清楚诶,这一段假设的前提是:工会应该独立于公司的利益并为为工人说话吗?我理解的是,日本工会不独立,不能为工人说话,工人们有事也不找工会。那时的工会领导和公司管理者差不多,工会的角色主要是为公司的利益提供被动支持(被动支持也是支持对不?好比我妈,我找她要钱她就给我,但是我不找她要她就不管了,与主动支持相区别的。。。不知道我理解的对不对)。这样的合作关系经常有冲突,例如1980s早期一个公司的工会与公司的生产运动发生了冲突。然而,1986年,一个工头协会的核心会议强制工会的领导退出公司,并且(强制工会的政策和他们合作???在强制下的合作就是被动合作了对不)
   关键是那个然而,是哪里来的转折啊?啥跟啥转折?是说工会以前那样已经很过分了,不但不改,还变本加厉??
33#
发表于 2011-10-12 00:28:08 | 只看该作者
prep2 ESSAY4
q13:It can be inferred from the passage that which of the following is true about the salinity and temperatures of the highest and lowest water layers in a typical solar pond?
(A) The bottom layer is both highly saline and quite hot, while the top layer is less saline and cooler.
(B) The two layers have similar salinity levels, but the bottom layer is hotter than the top.
(C) There is no way to predict the salinity and temperature of the different water layers in different solar ponds.
(D) The bottom layer is less saline and quite hot, while the top layer is more saline and cooler.
(E) The top layer has both higher salinity and higher temperatures than the bottom layer.


题目释义:
细节题目
考点:
推断(Inference) 旨在考察我们对文章的深度理解,以及逻辑推断能力。
这道题是让我们推断两个水层的盐度和热度。盐度问题定位在“This vertical change in salinity serves to trap heat because concentrated brine in the lowest water level acts as a collector and storage area for solar heat, while the less saline, lighter water at the upper levels provides insulation.” 这句话直接说明了盐度是下层的比较高。热度问题定位在最后一段的“Their buoyancy adversely affected, the cells sank to the bottom of the pond, where they encountered the hot waters of the storage layer and were destroyed.”。这句话说细胞掉到下面有部分会因水热被破坏,也就是说下层的水比上层的热。下面的“选项分析”只翻译选项。
选项分析:
(A) Correct. 底层的水高盐度和热度,上层的水低盐低热。
(B) 两层的盐度差不多,下层的水更热。
(C) 没有办法可以区分不同的太阳能池的不同层的盐度和热度。
(D) 下层的水盐度低热度高,上层的水盐度高热度低。
(E) 上层的水高盐度和热度,下层的水低盐低热。
————————————————————————————————————————————————————
我觉得热度定位直接定在第一段最后一句就好了呀~Heat is thus retained in the depths.  in the depths 不就是在深处的意思咩~


另外第13篇中的the cult of female domesticity好像不能翻译成“女性专心于家庭的礼教”吧,这是个专有名词,欧美曾经有过这么一股潮流,但是我查了很多材料,也没有找到合适的中文翻译,我个人觉得可以翻成“女性的家庭生活崇拜”或者“崇尚女性专注于家庭”都可以的说~
34#
 楼主| 发表于 2011-10-12 08:36:52 | 只看该作者
prep2 ESSAY4
q13:It can be inferred from the passage that which of the following is true about the salinity and temperatures of the highest and lowest water layers in a typical solar pond?
(A) The bottom layer is both highly saline and quite hot, while the top layer is less saline and cooler.
(B) The two layers have similar salinity levels, but the bottom layer is hotter than the top.
(C) There is no way to predict the salinity and temperature of the different water layers in different solar ponds.
(D) The bottom layer is less saline and quite hot, while the top layer is more saline and cooler.
(E) The top layer has both higher salinity and higher temperatures than the bottom layer.


题目释义:
细节题目
考点:
推断(Inference) 旨在考察我们对文章的深度理解,以及逻辑推断能力。
这道题是让我们推断两个水层的盐度和热度。盐度问题定位在“This vertical change in salinity serves to trap heat because concentrated brine in the lowest water level acts as a collector and storage area for solar heat, while the less saline, lighter water at the upper levels provides insulation.” 这句话直接说明了盐度是下层的比较高。热度问题定位在最后一段的“Their buoyancy adversely affected, the cells sank to the bottom of the pond, where they encountered the hot waters of the storage layer and were destroyed.”。这句话说细胞掉到下面有部分会因水热被破坏,也就是说下层的水比上层的热。下面的“选项分析”只翻译选项。
选项分析:
(A) Correct. 底层的水高盐度和热度,上层的水低盐低热。
(B) 两层的盐度差不多,下层的水更热。
(C) 没有办法可以区分不同的太阳能池的不同层的盐度和热度。
(D) 下层的水盐度低热度高,上层的水盐度高热度低。
(E) 上层的水高盐度和热度,下层的水低盐低热。
————————————————————————————————————————————————————
我觉得热度定位直接定在第一段最后一句就好了呀~Heat is thus retained in the depths.  in the depths 不就是在深处的意思咩~


另外第13篇中的the cult of female domesticity好像不能翻译成“女性专心于家庭的礼教”吧,这是个专有名词,欧美曾经有过这么一股潮流,但是我查了很多材料,也没有找到合适的中文翻译,我个人觉得可以翻成“女性的家庭生活崇拜”或者“崇尚女性专注于家庭”都可以的说~
-- by 会员 my8822180 (2011/10/12 0:28:08)


第一个问题:
 那个定位句直说了热被保存在深处,没有说深处就一定比较热啊~保存的热会比被直接照射的水面热度高哈(当然这个是无中生有,但是可以这么反驳对吧)~
第二个问题:
 这个翻译稍微有点trick~ 属于语法错误“女性的礼教,这个礼教是专心于家庭”><!
35#
发表于 2011-10-12 13:26:45 | 只看该作者
有道理的说~看到新版本的语法笔记了,赞一个喵~~
36#
发表于 2011-11-2 10:00:04 | 只看该作者
才开始看 发现一处错误烦请纠正
Prep 1 - Eassy 1 - Question 1 选项A的解释
(A) explain and critique the methods used by early statisticians
(A) 解释和批判统计学家统计的方法。作者采取的是陈述方法,或是描述。不带有明显的个人主观色彩。

critique 是 evaluate或者review的意思 中立感情色彩,和criticize (批判) 感情色彩完全不同。

郎文的解释
critique
to say how good or bad a book, play, painting, or set of ideas is
evaluate
 He offered to critique our plans.

在另一篇prep(似乎是2008)中考到过critique 是正确答案,所以我印象比较深。希望大家注意。
37#
发表于 2011-11-2 10:13:28 | 只看该作者

Two Column 版

另外希望新一版本的排版可以参照OG 文章和题目各占左右column,然后再跟"题目解释"的排版。这样虽然重复了题目两次,但是希望自己一次完整做一篇的同学就能比较没有间断的做完一篇,再对照解释看。我试着排了prep-1(see attachment)不知效果如何?

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38#
 楼主| 发表于 2011-11-2 19:51:17 | 只看该作者
才开始看 发现一处错误烦请纠正
Prep 1 - Eassy 1 - Question 1 选项A的解释
(A) explain and critique the methods used by early statisticians
(A) 解释和批判统计学家统计的方法。作者采取的是陈述方法,或是描述。不带有明显的个人主观色彩。

critique 是 evaluate或者review的意思 中立感情色彩,和criticize (批判) 感情色彩完全不同。

郎文的解释
critique
to say how good or bad a book, play, painting, or set of ideas is
evaluate
 He offered to critique our plans.

在另一篇prep(似乎是2008)中考到过critique 是正确答案,所以我印象比较深。希望大家注意。
-- by 会员 Jimmyzhang2012 (2011/11/2 10:00:04)

umm...critique有批评和评价两个意思~我个人认为做题的时候不能因为critique而排除选项,但是这个词的翻译可以是“批评”也可以是“评价”~
39#
发表于 2011-11-7 10:38:03 | 只看该作者
Page 147

Question 46:
The passage suggests which of the following about most existing maps of Native American lands?
(A) They do not record the migrations of Native American tribes.
(B) They have been preserved primarily because of their connection with treaties involving land transfers.
(C) They tend to reflect archaeological evidence that has become outdated.
(D) They tend to be less accurate when they are based on oral reports than when they are based on written documents.
(E) They are not based primarily on the mapmakers' firsthand observations of Native American lands.
私以为
选项E的定位为这句
Most existing maps of Native American lands are reconstructions that are based largely on archaeology, oral reports, and evidence gathered from observers' accounts in letters, diaries, and official reports; accordingly, the accuracy of these maps is especially dependent on the mapmakers' own interpretive abilities.

Most existing maps来自对各种资料的解读,而不是基于mapmakers' firsthand observations of Native American lands。

hoho 不知道这样是否更加准确~~讨教讨教
40#
 楼主| 发表于 2011-11-7 18:10:30 | 只看该作者
Page 147

Question 46:
The passage suggests which of the following about most existing maps of Native American lands?
(A) They do not record the migrations of Native American tribes.
(B) They have been preserved primarily because of their connection with treaties involving land transfers.
(C) They tend to reflect archaeological evidence that has become outdated.
(D) They tend to be less accurate when they are based on oral reports than when they are based on written documents.
(E) They are not based primarily on the mapmakers' firsthand observations of Native American lands.
私以为
选项E的定位为这句
Most existing maps of Native American lands are reconstructions that are based largely on archaeology, oral reports, and evidence gathered from observers' accounts in letters, diaries, and official reports; accordingly, the accuracy of these maps is especially dependent on the mapmakers' own interpretive abilities.

Most existing maps来自对各种资料的解读,而不是基于mapmakers' firsthand observations of Native American lands。

hoho 不知道这样是否更加准确~~讨教讨教
-- by 会员 2012goabroad (2011/11/7 10:38:03)


恩恩~你看的是1.1版不?我已经更新了哈~C选项的定位句是你说的那句哈~你看看对不?谢谢指正~
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