酒壹肆-BAT二战GMAT 750~迟到的心经[2011-09]

superbat28

bat，你真是一个又热心，又有智慧的人！
你写的东西我都要好好的研究，我觉得你已经融到GMAT里面了！！
谢谢你！！

-- by 会员 phoebe0624 (2011/9/17 21:17:41)

嘿嘿~phoebe姐~这是一战失败教会的。所以，最后我发现失败原来真的可以教会人东西~
然后就拿来分享咯~着实觉得，当时弯路走的太多。也不希望有人再走那条路了~

phoebe姐加油加油加油~~~~嗷嗷加油~

若雪

有个问题吖~~我发现BAT在举例CR里面多数都是OG比较前面的例子~是不是只要找到那个thinking pattern，到底刷多少OG并不是那么重要？因为下周六就要考了...最近学校疯狂考试orz...然后觉得自己有点为了赶进度刷OG...

fox0923

bat,能不能把Q15的有因无果再说说？
觉得第一句是背景信息，然后因就是“because they are shy animals that are active only at night."
而果就是”the group contends that bats are feared and persecuted solely."(显然这个果是非常不能说明问题的，所以不能算是果。按照你的说法，前面也应该提到shy animals are feared,才能算是有因果）
糊糊理解的和bat前面说的是不是一个意思？糊糊比较笨，所以得再刨根问底一下~~刚刚又看到了Q25，感觉也是很像有因无果，bat再给看一下~~谢谢哈~~

superbat28

有个问题吖~~我发现BAT在举例CR里面多数都是OG比较前面的例子~是不是只要找到那个thinking pattern，到底刷多少OG并不是那么重要？因为下周六就要考了...最近学校疯狂考试orz...然后觉得自己有点为了赶进度刷OG...

-- by 会员 若雪 (2011/9/18 3:00:59)

恩啊~我觉得是，就是我觉得GMAT的准备应该是一个“重质量，不重数量的过程”~
PS：我举前面的例子，是因为我凑巧看到那些题啦~嘿嘿。不过，确实我刷OG的时候，一般重点就会刷Weaken和Strengthen，因为我觉得用这两个题型来建那个pattern会比较容易。
Assumption的话，其实也可以。但是，就是OG有些assumption题很诡异…
其实若雪你可以在一边刷的过程中，一边去挑出一些你觉得比较难的题~然后回头再来重点看看那几个题也好~

superbat28

bat,能不能把Q15的有因无果再说说？
觉得第一句是背景信息，然后因就是“because they are shy animals that are active only at night."
而果就是”the group contends that bats are feared and persecuted solely."(显然这个果是非常不能说明问题的，所以不能算是果。按照你的说法，前面也应该提到shy animals are feared,才能算是有因果）
糊糊理解的和bat前面说的是不是一个意思？糊糊比较笨，所以得再刨根问底一下~~刚刚又看到了Q25，感觉也是很像有因无果，bat再给看一下~~谢谢哈~~

-- by 会员 fox0923 (2011/9/18 4:02:03)

嘿~其实bat也是刷了好几遍OG才突然顿悟的。Q25我曾经也以为是有因无果，但是我最后发现它相当于是【灭因无果】，跟有因无果还不一样。

Q15  但是我觉得fox姐马上就可以看破这道题了~上面你的看法基本米有错~就是再稍微来一点突破！~~~
A conservation group in the United States is trying to change the long-standing image of bats as frightening creatures. The group contends that bats are feared and persecuted solely because they are shy animals that are active only at night.

fox姐，你看这题哈~第一句话肯定是背景信息，木有问题。主要是第二句话： 【他们说，bat被误解只是因为他们在晚间活动】
这个话是它的结论，对不对。~然后在这整个结论中，果【bat被误解被害怕】，因【他们在晚间活动】，就是这样。
然后我们直接看正确答案：racoon and owls are shy and active only at night, yet they are not generally feared and persecuted.
这个结论相当于在说：R和O【在晚间活动】，但是【他们没有被误解被害怕】，对比原文里那两个【】中的文字，这个选项就是“给出了一个有因无果的例子”~是这个意思~

然后像Q94，
Studies in restaurants show that the tips left by customers who pay their bill in cash tend to be larger when the
bill is presented on a tray that bears a credit-card logo. 【Consumer psychologists hypothesize that simply seeing
a credit-card logo makes many credit-card holders willing to spend more because it reminds them that their
spending power exceeds the cash they have immediately available.】

这个大括号中那个是结论。结论中，它包含一层因果。果【人们看到信用卡logo就花钱多】，因【人们看到信用卡logo就明白自己有excess money】，right？~
然后这道题问的加强，正确答案：Patrons who are under fi nancial pressure from their credit-card obligations tend to tip less when presented with a restaurant bill on a tray with a credit-card logo than when the tray has no logo.
在读这个答案的时候，就是应该发现，它说了一件事。什么事呢？果【人们看到信用卡logo花钱少】，因【这些人欠银行一屁股债】
在对比原文那两个【】，这是一个【无因无果】的例子，从而加强了结论~

然后，这道Q94是一个特别经典的【因果型结论】的题。因为对A，C选项的解释。你看A~
The effect noted in the studies is not limited to patrons who have credit cards.  意思就是【实验结果对没有信用卡的人也一样】。
对比原文的结论，A的意思就是【无因，仍还是有果】的，所以这个选项就是个削弱选项~

这样能明白不~~~~~

superbat28

bat,能不能把Q15的有因无果再说说？
觉得第一句是背景信息，然后因就是“because they are shy animals that are active only at night."
而果就是”the group contends that bats are feared and persecuted solely."(显然这个果是非常不能说明问题的，所以不能算是果。按照你的说法，前面也应该提到shy animals are feared,才能算是有因果）
糊糊理解的和bat前面说的是不是一个意思？糊糊比较笨，所以得再刨根问底一下~~刚刚又看到了Q25，感觉也是很像有因无果，bat再给看一下~~谢谢哈~~

-- by 会员 fox0923 (2011/9/18 4:02:03)

然后在看Q25,
Many breakfast cereals are fortified with vitamin supplements. Some of these cereals provide 100 percent of the recommended daily requirement of vitamins. Nevertheless, a well-balanced breakfast, including a variety of foods, is a better source of those vitamins than are such fortified breakfast cereals alone.

这道题不是一个因果型结论。真的不是，所以一定要去做到flow back的那个感觉。尽管我一开始可能也把它当成【灭因无果】来记忆，但是最后我发现这么记是不对的。因为这种题，更强调要去关注那个reasoning。如下~

这道题结论：【a well-balanced breakfast is a better source of those vitamins than fortified cereals】，这是一个陈述句，它就是在说【A比B好】

但是，当你flow back去感觉这个结论的前提时，你发现原文中没有支持这个结论的前提对不对？它曾经只是说过了一句【fortified cereals】的好处，但是这个明显不是支持结论的话啊。然后，我就会反应，“嗯。找一个选项充当premise去支持前提就好了。”

然后，你就去带着一种，感觉或者说是想法，预测出的答案方向就是【一个选项，他能支持结论，A比B好】
然后带着这个想法，你去看每一个选项。一看A你就觉得很顺眼了~然后往后看那几个选项，就基本都是无关了~因为他们都不能去支持哪个【A比B好】的结论~

若雪

谢谢BAT ^_^
现在碰到个问题就是如果一道题有2~3个premise（我上次考试碰到好几个在花了2分钟还是没绕明白以后就慌了..）， BAT一般是全部premise都记么？我觉得这种我就很难一下子记全所有的。。通常记了后面忘记前面导致logic flow不顺orz...

superbat28

谢谢BAT ^_^
那如果一道题有2~3个premise（我上次考试碰到好几个在花了2分钟还是没绕明白以后就慌了..）， BAT一般是全部premise都记么？我觉得这种我就很难一下子记全所有的。。通常记了后面忘记前面导致logic flow不顺orz...

-- by 会员 若雪 (2011/9/18 10:44:26)

我一般也就记住一个吧~我会记住最直接的那个~然后，以最直接的那个premise作为我预测答案的大体方向~
我觉得，就算题目涉及到2-3个premise，它的答案一定也会和“最直接的那个论据”有关。

而且，我觉得如果就是刷OG，能找到那个抑扬顿挫的感觉，就是你会对stimulus有一个信息处理的感觉。像我有一阵，就感觉我读完一大陀。。什么乱七八糟的。。Orz。
但是，如果我稍微把心态放平了，每句话每句话稍微感受一下，停顿一下。就算再多也能捋清楚一些~

若雪

我现在的thinking pattern是这样地~稍微有一点点不同~求BAT指教~

先读stimulus，边读边想logic flow，着重conclusion部分，特别是限定词【觉得这是GMAC迷惑选项的出处..shell game>_<@】
然后读题目类型
心里默默预测答案方向【这个每次预测的范围都觉得有点大。。咳咳，或者一着急就忘记预测直接看题了...】
然后读题~

前面碰到这道题。觉得好像有点不太一样额。答案里面的successful outsourcing差点就因为加了个successful的限定被我排除了= =！后来因为看着别的都不对才回去看的~所以想问下BAT的想法~~~鞠躬~


Outsourcing is the practice of obtaining from an independent supplier a product or service that a company has previously provided for itself. Since a company's chief objective is to realize the highest possible year-end profits, any product or service that can be obtained from an independent supplier for less than it would cost the company to provide the product or service on its own should be outsourced.
Which of the following, if true, most seriously weakens the argument?
(A) If a company decides to use independent suppliers for a product, it can generally exploit the vigorous competition arising among several firms that are interested in supplying that product.
(B) Successful outsourcing requires a company to provide its suppliers with information about its products and plans that can fall into the hands of its competitors and give them a business advantage.
(0 Certain tasks, such as processing a company's payroll, are commonly outsourced, whereas others, such as handling the company's core business, are not.
(D) For a company to provide a product or service for itself as efficiently as an independent supplier can provide it, the managers involved need to be as expert in the area of that product or service as the people in charge of that product or service at an independent supplier are.  (E) When a company decides to use an independent supplier for a product or service, the independent supplier sometimes hires members of the company's staff who formerly made the product or provided the service that the independent supplier now supplies.

kmylv

Bat是不是因果结论型的题，只要对提干问Why 回答是Conclusion的内容，就可以算了呢？反之不是因果结论型，则逻辑不对呢？