酒壹肆-BAT二战GMAT 750~迟到的心经[2011-09]

corneliaflower

bat的逻辑读起来让cornelia觉得明晰很多

但还的在题目中细细品味一下

cornelia现在也说不好是种什么感觉  等完全上路了再看应该体会更深吧

superbat28

bat的逻辑读起来让cornelia觉得明晰很多

但还的在题目中细细品味一下

cornelia现在也说不好是种什么感觉  等完全上路了再看应该体会更深吧

-- by 会员 corneliaflower (2011/9/19 23:42:15)

加油加油哦~嘿嘿吼~~找到一个抑扬顿挫~分清，重点和一般信息~会有感觉的~~~

superbat28

帮忙分析一个逻辑题吧，你说他们是不是在讨论因为特征像(不像)会拿错瓶子，从而导致被竞争对手compete啊？M说会拿错，因为特征像，影响销量，D说不会拿错，因为特征分明。现在要攻击D这个人的说法，就是说会拿错，影响销量的。答案是D选项，绕不过来啊？

Mourdet Winery:  Danville Winery's new wine was introduced to compete with our most popular wine, which is sold in a distinctive tall, black bottle.  Danville uses a similar bottle.  Thus, it is likely that many customers intending to buy our wine will mistakenly buy theirs instead.

Danville Winery:  Not so.  The two bottles can be readily distinguished:  the label on ours, but not on theirs, is gold colored.
Which of the following, if true, most undermines Danville Winery's response?
(A) Gold is the background color on the label of many of the wines produced by Danville Winery.
(B) When the bottles are viewed side by side, Danville Winery's bottle is perceptibly taller than Mourdet Winery's.
(C) Danville Winery, unlike Mourdet Winery, displays its wine's label prominently in advertisements.
(D) It is common for occasional purchasers to buy a bottle of wine on the basis of a general impression of the most obvious feature of the bottle.
(E) Many popular wines are sold in bottles of a standard design.

-- by 会员 Chenjulia (2011/9/19 23:05:57)

明早我看吧》《~有点累……

若雪

哇~我觉得我等BAT更新就像原来等小说或者是电视剧一样~~BAT的贴是个大坑~~~~！同意关于订计划。。我的计划后来flexible到和当初的大相径庭= =！曾经一天OG才看了10道。。

继续等感想。。等呀么等感想。。。

最后一周又要模考又想接着刷OG。。。专业课还TM要考试。。。哭死。。。

若雪

帮忙分析一个逻辑题吧，你说他们是不是在讨论因为特征像(不像)会拿错瓶子，从而导致被竞争对手compete啊？M说会拿错，因为特征像，影响销量，D说不会拿错，因为特征分明。现在要攻击D这个人的说法，就是说会拿错，影响销量的。答案是D选项，绕不过来啊？

Mourdet Winery:  Danville Winery's new wine was introduced to compete with our most popular wine, which is sold in a distinctive tall, black bottle.  Danville uses a similar bottle.  Thus, it is likely that many customers intending to buy our wine will mistakenly buy theirs instead.

Danville Winery:  Not so.  The two bottles can be readily distinguished:  the label on ours, but not on theirs, is gold colored.
Which of the following, if true, most undermines Danville Winery's response?
(A) Gold is the background color on the label of many of the wines produced by Danville Winery.
(B) When the bottles are viewed side by side, Danville Winery's bottle is perceptibly taller than Mourdet Winery's.
(C) Danville Winery, unlike Mourdet Winery, displays its wine's label prominently in advertisements.
(D) It is common for occasional purchasers to buy a bottle of wine on the basis of a general impression of the most obvious feature of the bottle.
(E) Many popular wines are sold in bottles of a standard design.

-- by 会员 Chenjulia (2011/9/19 23:05:57)

明早我看吧》《~有点累……

-- by 会员 superbat28 (2011/9/20 1:18:53)

晚睡早起的神一般的人物啊。。童鞋你早点睡啊。。。！国内都一点多了吧！

superbat28

我就是一想，第二天反正要上课。。然后就没睡- -，哈哈

若雪

我每天开电脑第一件事就是看这瞄瞄~~咳咳~
上题~

Though sucking zinc lozenges has been promoted as a treatment for the common cold, research has revealed no consistent effect.  Recently, however, a zinc gel applied nasally has been shown to greatly reduce the duration of colds.  Since the gel contains zinc in the same form and concentration as the lozenges, the greater effectiveness of the gel must be due to the fact that cold viruses tend to concentrate in the nose, not the mouth.
In order to evaluate the argument, it would be most helpful to determine which of the following?
A.    Whether zinc is effective only against colds, or also has an effect on other virally caused diseases
B.    Whether there are remedies that do not contain zinc but that, when taken orally, can reduce the duration of colds
C.    Whether people who frequently catch colds have a zinc deficiency
D.    Whether either the zinc gel or the lozenges contain ingredients that have an impact on the activity of the zinc
E.    Whether the zinc gel has an effect on the severity of cold symptoms, as well as on their duration

答案是D~
这个可以看成因果型的么？
我毫不犹豫的用无因无果或者有因无果进行加强或者削弱选了B...

我记得我上次考试做到后面一片一片的evaluate...然后我每个都要纠结是，能不能加强，不是，能不能削弱。时间就如流水哗啦啦的。。。

superbat28

帮忙分析一个逻辑题吧，你说他们是不是在讨论因为特征像(不像)会拿错瓶子，从而导致被竞争对手compete啊？M说会拿错，因为特征像，影响销量，D说不会拿错，因为特征分明。现在要攻击D这个人的说法，就是说会拿错，影响销量的。答案是D选项，绕不过来啊？

Mourdet Winery:  Danville Winery's new wine was introduced to compete with our most popular wine, which is sold in a distinctive tall, black bottle.  Danville uses a similar bottle.  Thus, it is likely that many customers intending to buy our wine will mistakenly buy theirs instead.

Danville Winery:  Not so.  The two bottles can be readily distinguished:  the label on ours, but not on theirs, is gold colored.
Which of the following, if true, most undermines Danville Winery's response?
(A) Gold is the background color on the label of many of the wines produced by Danville Winery.
(B) When the bottles are viewed side by side, Danville Winery's bottle is perceptibly taller than Mourdet Winery's.
(C) Danville Winery, unlike Mourdet Winery, displays its wine's label prominently in advertisements.
(D) It is common for occasional purchasers to buy a bottle of wine on the basis of a general impression of the most obvious feature of the bottle.
(E) Many popular wines are sold in bottles of a standard design.

-- by 会员 Chenjulia (2011/9/19 23:05:57)

嗯~我想说，思路没有问题啊~但是，做逻辑题，一定要一题就是一题。在分析，想得时候，一定要是结合着题的specific去想。

这道题，就是，一个人说：竞争对手，把瓶子作的很像，所以我们的销售会受到影响。
另一个人：不会，因为我们有一个特殊的金色标签。

那去undermine第二个人，我们要有的想法，就是很直接很简单的阿： 有金色标签，我们的销量还是会受影响。

然后带着这个感觉去看选项。
你觉得A能回答这个问题么~完全不相干不是~所以A无关。
B的话，你读完，感觉一下，它的意思像是在表达：二者有很多不同，所以不会影响销量。跟你要的方向是相反的。。所以，B错。

就是读选项的时候，一定要带着你想要的方向去读，然后去感觉每个选项在说什么。和你要的这个方向的关系是怎样的~

D的话：意思是，人们买东西靠general impression.那意思就是，人们不会在意那个小小的label。也就是说，尽管label不一样，人们不会注意到这个点，所以酒的销量会下降~

superbat28

我每天开电脑第一件事就是看这瞄瞄~~咳咳~
上题~

Though sucking zinc lozenges has been promoted as a treatment for the common cold, research has revealed no consistent effect.  Recently, however, a zinc gel applied nasally has been shown to greatly reduce the duration of colds.  Since the gel contains zinc in the same form and concentration as the lozenges, the greater effectiveness of the gel must be due to the fact that cold viruses tend to concentrate in the nose, not the mouth.
In order to evaluate the argument, it would be most helpful to determine which of the following?
A.    Whether zinc is effective only against colds, or also has an effect on other virally caused diseases
B.    Whether there are remedies that do not contain zinc but that, when taken orally, can reduce the duration of colds
C.    Whether people who frequently catch colds have a zinc deficiency
D.    Whether either the zinc gel or the lozenges contain ingredients that have an impact on the activity of the zinc
E.    Whether the zinc gel has an effect on the severity of cold symptoms, as well as on their duration

答案是D~
这个可以看成因果型的么？
我毫不犹豫的用无因无果或者有因无果进行加强或者削弱选了B...

我记得我上次考试做到后面一片一片的evaluate...然后我每个都要纠结是，能不能加强，不是，能不能削弱。时间就如流水哗啦啦的。。。

-- by 会员 若雪 (2011/9/20 9:37:51)

B不相干的。。孩纸~结论没抓牢的说~
人家的结论是： [新药有用是因为病毒都在nose里，而非mouse里]

着实是因果性结论~但是，你看B，说得是： 有木有zinc。。有木有zinc。。不是结论里的因果任何一方阿。。

就是，我觉得逻辑还是要在一定程度上靠你的正常思维,Orz...
就是，比如这么一个论断： 我孩子特别聪明，是因为他小时候上过奥数。。

对于这种因果型，结论你第一反应不会是去想有因有果，无因无果吧。。我觉得人的正常反应，会是，有木有他因？right？~这就和你给的这个zinc的题很像了~

但是，换一个论断：你说我孩子自打上了奥数以后变聪明了，所以他聪明一定是因为他上奥数了。
这个论断，你的反应很有可能就是： 那他没上奥数会不会变聪明啊？~
这就是有因有果，那一套思路了。

所以，你要看题~不要固化一种思维。有的时候，就是凭本能去感觉~我到底该怎么对你的论断怎么施加影响最爽~哇哈哈

ccmoom

今天才上来看Bat的神贴啊~``  很好很强大。
 认真拜读，为三战做准备了。bat的分数是我的目标呀~``呵呵