【每日逻辑链练习贴】【逻辑1-2】

抓抓sandra

to bat&fox，恩啊恩啊，我觉得就放在CR这组帖子里头就好了~嘻嘻~~不然太麻烦了~~
to daisy，难易结合~~hoho~~

balapupu

1.【1‘05s】（这道题，一个intoxicated的单词不懂，搞的我看了N遍）
政府应该立法禁止在火车上卖酒：最近，为了保护人们的健康，政府立法限制人们在火车上抽烟。－－》在火车上喝的醉醺醺的人下火车开自己车回家所造成的危险至少和那些吸二手烟的危险是一样的。
ask: the author rellies on ? 我觉得又可能是政府只以保护人们安全为出发点（排除类比的它因）
2.【30s】只有右撇子才能绘制出FM，但是毕加索这个杰出的画家，他即使不用右手也可以绘制出FM。
Ask：逻辑链的错误。。没看出来这是什么错误额。。。
3.【39s】尽管百分之90的人认为他们自己对保健知识很了解，但事实上，只有百分之20的人知道关于DNA的知识，所以至少有百分之80的人不知道如何自我保健和公共医疗的政策。
Ask：fail to demonstrate: 是否能仅仅通过知道DNA知识来判断人们对保健知识的了解。
4.【50s】10年前引进的S威胁到了当地o的生存：S会破坏O居住的树木。政府建议放一些毒药，并且这种做法不会破坏O的生存，因为放毒药的罐子只会被S和一些啮齿类动物接近到。
ASk：weaken：有些啮齿类动物对当地的生态环境也是很重要的。
5、【50s】销售：去年，我们公司的餐厅比去年卖出了更多是食物，所以说，顾客对我们食物的满意度更高了。
会计：去年和之前相比，看我们每个餐厅的业绩表明，每个餐厅的销售的食物量更少了，所以说顾客对我们顾客的满意度降低了。
weaken：每个餐厅的销售减小是因为新的餐厅的开设分散了客源。

superbat28

前提：因为旅客在列车上抽烟会遗留有害物质，后上车的旅客会吸入并造成影响。
结论：应该出法令禁止旅客在列车上喝酒。
推测：问题问assumption：吸烟和喝酒产生的危害效果一致。

前提：只有light hand的才能excel false marble。
结论：毕加索是伟大的画家，虽然他不是light hand，但是他可以excel。
推测：伟大画家不是万能的。

90%的人认为没有被正确告知医疗信息，20%的人了解DNA。。。。
不记得了。。。

前提：灰松鼠的闯入影响了owl的数量，因为他们呼唤鸟巢。
结论：有人建议给松鼠下药，认为不会误伤到owl，因为药会放在只有松鼠和其他啮齿类动物碰得到的地方。
推测：owl可能吃会吃到药的动物，从而间接中毒

经理：我们的总营业额上升了，说明顾客喜欢我们的饮食
会计：从单个店看，我们的销量都下降了。那些能够跟去年或往年相比的餐厅的营业额都降低了…..
没看完。。。

我太囧了，水平真差

-- by 会员 spoiledchild (2011/8/8 14:24:07)

不要这样啊~~我们就是要一练自己~
不要气馁！~~我们是一往上走，not 让自己不开心~~~
要找到好方法，并且要勇于挑战自己~

superbat28

1. 40s
Conclusion: Impose the law restricting consumption of alcohol on trains
Premise: We have already impose a law restricting the smoke, since it does harm to the public

Assumption: Alcohol has the same effect as smoke does.

2. 30s +24s   T T
Conclusion: false marble can be created by 毕加索
Premise: 毕加索 is a great artist, but he does not have a light hand
       Light hand can create false marble

Flaw: False marble cannot be created by anyone who does not have a light hand
    Not all greatest paints can create false marble

3. 30s
Conclusion: At least 80% people do not know the knowledge of health care
Premise: 20% do not know anything about DNA

Flaw: We do not knowledge of DNA to make health care decision

4. 40s
Conclusion: Poison GS without damaging the local owl
Premise: The poison is only accessible to the GS

Weaken: Show a situation that can undermine the premise. (没想出具体的T T)
       The poison itself can do harm to the tree!!!!!

5.  50s
SM: OUR meal is desirable since sales figure rises
Accountant: Our meal is not desirable, since those have operated more than 2 years have decreased sales figure.

MBT: More new restaurants have been opened and has done well
Weaken: 没想好。。不想了。。光看你们发言了最后。。。

superbat28

话说我有话讲~nnd，我把第二题题目就看错了。。囧，这种parallel我是挺弱的，不过我赞成fox姐的各道题观点~（除了第五题吧~我没好好看第五题）

我想说的主要是第一题和第五题~
鄙人拙见~
第一题，是典型的一种题，用analogy推结论，反驳就是show difference,支持或假设就是show now difference.

第二题，我同意daisy的逻辑链~
manager和accountant两人的区别在于manager是说的所有的餐馆，而accountant只列举了那些开了有两年以上的餐馆，所以infer应该是“开了好多好多新餐馆”吧~？

恩。。不过这五道题我好像之前都见过。。掩面。。痛苦回忆。。

kidvii

45s +
smoke on commuter line X -->protect commuters
With alcohol dangers >= smoke
Analogy
27s

Excel -->light hand
Picasso X light hand-->Y excel

Error: X light hand-->X excel-->icasso X excel
26s
20% Y DNA
80% x medical concepts
KEY: 偷换概念
37s
Owl X poison -->owl X threat
Flaw:忽略潜在的威胁，owl feeds on rodents.
48s
Manager: total +-->desire +
Accountant: in operation each - --> desire –

Infer: no. in operation +
Flaw：sales in all represent desire（这个是猜的，记不清了）

lhf80

1. 54
C：should ban alcohol on train
P1: Passed a law which ban commuter to smoke on train
P2 passenger and public are exposed to inhale smoke.
类比
2.40
Marble creature need light hand.
Picasso is a great artist. He didn't have a light hand.
3.48
C: 20% don't know medical concept and policy.
P1 90% of people believes they know health care，20% don't know DNA
以偏概全。DNA不能代表整个medical concept
4.43
P1 a bird is introduced to a place.
P2 bird destroy a kind of tree where owl construct net, affecting population of owl
P3 decide to poison bird
C a poison accessible to the bird but not owl, in order to kill the bird, will have no threat to owl.
This measure will have no threat to owl, while killing squirrel, because the poison is only accessible to squirrel and other rodent but not owl.
注意only等限定词。

5.72
P1 sales manager: Total number of meals sale increase. Customer desire their meat.
P2 Sale's figure of individual restaurant decreased this year. A trend of decrease.
速记是一定要注意范围。这题明显是范围不同，一个是销售总数，一个是单个餐馆的销售。不是一个概念。

zhengzhengzz

1. 第一题的前提。。。没看太明白~~~是说开了车之类产生的尾气污染跟吸烟的一样！？！？！
Premise: when intoxicated riders get off the train, the public will be danger.
Conclusion: the alcohol consumption on commuter trains should be banned.
2.
A light hand can create marble, but Picasso is a great artist, thought he does not has a light hand, he can create a excellent marble.
3.
premise: about 90% people thought that they are well informed about health care, but only 20% know DNA
Conclusion:80% of the people actually don’t know the medical concept or the public policy.
4.
background information: S were introduced to an area that threatened the O.
Premise: S destroys the nest of O.
Conclusion: poison that only to S and other rodent. Eliminate S would be no threat to O.
5.
Manager: the company restaurants was higher than the year befor
Accountant: meals sold in individual restaurants decreased

joelee1991

1.50s

BG:禁止在火车上吸烟。
Premise：这些吸二手烟的中毒的人们自己开车时，公众和被破吸烟的人一样很危险。
conclusion：由此，应该再颁布不能再火车上喝酒的法律。
这个纠结的逻辑链...神马东东....
2.34S
制造FM只有很巧夺天工的人才能做，毕加索还没有那样的才能，但可以做ＦＭ。
3。. 28S
BG：90%的人都觉得自己有正确的养生观念。
Premise：只有20%知道DNA
conclusion:80%的人都对医药健康理念没有正确理解。不能很好的做选择和做政策的决定~
漏洞~DNA和养生没什么关系吧...
４．BG：S鸟的到来让猫头鹰受到极大威胁。S鸟会毁坏猫头鹰的巢。
   ：政府说投放一种只有S鸟和其他一些能吃到的毒药，来保护猫头鹰的数量。
   有什么漏洞？推测：猫头鹰虽然不吃毒药，但有可能吃到吃了药的动物~
5.47S
销售经理说：今年的肉的销售总量比去年和前年都好。
会计说：看单个餐馆的，每个人的人均销量比去年和前年都下降了。

吃饭的人多了呗~

xqxqzym

1-49s
p: protect the public health, prohibit smoking on commuter lines cuz passengers who smoke after get off the train still put public in danger
c: ban alcohol sales and consumption on commuter line.
flaw: compare smoking direactly with alcohol

2-31s
pnly light hand can creat art
c is a great artist without a light hand

3-28s
p:90% people thought they were well-informed about medical care, only 20% know well about DNA.
c:  80% doesnt know well about medical concept
flaw:20% know well about DNA doesnt mean they know well about the medical concept.

4-38s
p:S threat the O
c: offical is ready to poison by containers which only S and R may reach.
flaw: poison may cause other unaimed animal to death.

5-50s
m: the total increased sales number means the customers like their food
A: the sales number of individual resteraunt decreased, which means the customers dont like their food

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