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关于 one of+n.(复数)+that从句 的主谓一致

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发表于 2009-10-2 20:56:00 | 显示全部楼层
http://edu.taisha.org/bbs/viewthread.php?tid=1343342

我找到的太傻的一个讨论这个问题的帖子里A大的评论:


“我觉得需要解释一下为什么我改变了看法。这句似乎可以有两个分析:$ M5 M; \9 z! `  t* C

(1) He is [(one of those rare people) who believes in ancient myths].

    2 \+ K6 d( p) U7 F(2) He is one of [(those rare people) who believes in ancient myths].

    7 Z/ a5 d" X5 x+ x如果是 (1) 的话,那用 believes 就正确。如果是 (2) 的话,就应该用 believe。% z: L9 {2 ~# z2 d5 Y' u

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(1) 是说不通的。主要原因是英语不会这样表达的。”



“我想到为什么 (1) 错了。如果是 (1) 那样理解 He is [(one of those rare people) who
believes in ancient myths].,那 those rare people 就没有着落,因为 who believes
in ancient myths 变成只修饰 one。那么 those rare people 是什么人?/ Q6 v* w+ K3 @/ i

    

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然,也有类似而正确的用例:He is the one person in the department who does not take
bribes. 这句就没有问题了,因为 the department 在这句之前提过,所以意思清楚。但是 those rare people
就不同了。这个词组给人的感觉是在这句里才提出的,所以意思含混,必须有修饰说明是什么人。更加上 one of 的 of,在 one 与 who
believes in ancient myths 之间画了一条鸿沟,所以 who 分句不能指代 one 了。”



“我和我的改稿人讨论过这个用法。他认为全部都应该用单数,因为他把 one of those people、one of the things 等看做一个单位。虽然他是我认识的人当中英文最好的,但在这点我不同意他。

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这里是固定词组与逻辑的冲突,我选逻辑,他选固定词组。三十年前,我和他又有一次意见不同。more than one 后面跟的是单数还是众数。我说
more than one 就是一个以上,所以当然是众数。他却认为是大错,因为他不是这样分析的。more than one cat
这个词组,他看成是 more than (one cat),而我则是看成 (more than one)
cats。在这点上我从了他,因为是英文的 idiomatic usage。但是在 one of those 这里,我还是认为要看语境。- o  a. n) E0 L" c+ p% g2 w

    

    $ f/ _1 z5 D/ g: \+ j5 `刚才去翻 A Comprehensive Grammar of the English Language。在这本巨著里面找东西是很难的,因为索引奇差。但是今天竟然找到了。第 10.43 节后面的附注 d 就是说这点的:1 V: U) b5 Q+ S( g1 E% b' F/ Q

     If a relative clause follows a noun phrase containing one of plus a plural noun phrase, there is often a choice as to whether the verb in the relative clause should agree in number with one or with the plural noun phrase:  m& F2 \. b' \8 `. O4 g5 Y+ [

          He's one of those students who never get(s) a piece of work done on time.

    # l: w2 ?+ u: F% Q& SThe choice of singular or plural can depend on whether attention is directed to the generality or to the uniqueness.  Compare:

    + e! F; v" u8 U9 l& V4 ?          Charlatanry is one of the many words in English that are of French origin.

    # s5 [3 o3 @  O4 \! ~3 X8 l               [=Of the many words in English that are of French origin, charlatanry is one.]

    / |, B- J5 K5 o8 ~0 n          Charlatanry is one of the common vices that is particularly contemptible.

    5 T0 T. r- ^1 ]: g               [=Of the common vices, charlantanry is one that is particularly contemptible.]3 ?, O3 @0 _6 _, X$ T4 c! M& k( e

    

    8 S5 b3 a: B3 n% G2 y7 W5 U, F所以根据这里
所说,one of those people who believe 或 believes 都可以。但是我还是觉得用 believe
合理,不然 those people 就不能交代。上面例句最后那里的 the common vices 是很明确的,所以修饰语 that .
. . 修饰 one 不会带来逻辑上的真空。those people 和 the things 则不同了,太过笼统,不修饰一下就没有意义。”
发表于 2011-4-15 15:19:54 | 显示全部楼层

看到LS的例句,有点不成熟的想法····


The choice of singular or plural can depend on whether attention is directed to the generalityor to the uniqueness.  Compare:

Charlatanry is one of the many words in English that are of French origin.

                [=Of the many words in English that are of French origin, charlatanry is one.]
generality:words are of French origin (没有差别)

         Charlatanry is one of the common vices that is particularly contemptible.

       [=Of the common vices, charlantanry is one that is particularly contemptible.]
uniqueness: charlatanry is of particularly contemptible (common vices 程度各有不同)
这样似乎还是看That的内容····
再想想···
发表于 2011-9-2 13:36:36 | 显示全部楼层
joe很会去太傻翻东西来着
发表于 2011-9-2 13:55:31 | 显示全部楼层
我的理解,one of 后面,谓语动词用单数还是复数,这主要还是要看他是修饰one 还是 后面的复数名词,没有什么公理
发表于 2011-9-16 02:28:17 | 显示全部楼层
发表于 2011-10-11 12:19:54 | 显示全部楼层
thanks a lot
发表于 2012-8-2 10:53:53 | 显示全部楼层
所以这题选C吗?
发表于 2012-10-16 17:06:27 | 显示全部楼层
我觉得that指代的是Matacil,而不是anti-budworm agents,从后面的least意思可以推断出来,如果是指代anti-budworm agents,那么least就不合适了
发表于 2014-4-22 17:07:43 | 显示全部楼层
总算找到答案啦~~
发表于 2016-3-5 23:06:21 | 显示全部楼层
one of + that 从句的谓语动词单复数问题
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