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31#
发表于 2004-9-17 20:37:00 | 只看该作者

可是A项里的THEIR究竟指代什么呢?!!

我选C。

32#
发表于 2004-9-27 03:13:00 | 只看该作者

Q11:
There are no legal limits, as there are for cod and haddock, on the size of monkfish that
can be caught, a circumstance that contributes to their depletion through overfishing.
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A. There are no legal limits, as there are for cod and haddock, on the size of
monkfish that can be caught, a circumstance that contributes to their depletion
through overfishing.
B. There are no legal limits on the size of monkfish that can be caught, unlike cod or
haddock, a circumstance that contributes to depleting them because they are being
overfished.
C. There are legal limits on the size of cod and haddock that can be caught, but not
for monkfish, which contributes to its depletion through overfishing.
D. Unlike cod and haddock, there are no legal size limits on catching monkfish,
which contributes to its depletion by being overfished.
E. Unlike catching cod and haddock, there are no legal size limits on catching
monkfish, contributing to their depletion because they are overfished.

Q41:
When drive-ins were at the height of their popularity in the late 1950’s, some 4,000
existed in the United States, but today there are less than one-quarter that many.
A. there are less than one-quarter that many
B. there are fewer than one-quarter as many
C. there are fewer than one-quarter of that amount
D. the number is less than one-quarter the amount
E. it is less than one-quarter of that amount

For Q11,  I think A.  

The ' unlike ' in B makes it unclear, we could think it is comparing with the previous '  monkfish' and also the later' circumstance'. moreover,  'depleting' does not have subkect.  

C and D is faulty because of its ' which'

The meaning of ' size' in 'size limits on catching ..' in E is vague, is it the size of fish or size of catching fish.

For Q41. C I think.   the one quarter the amount in D looks no good, the one quarter of that amount will be better   .

What do you guys think?

33#
发表于 2004-10-5 15:03:00 | 只看该作者
8-11:
A. There are no legal limits, as there are for cod and haddock, on the size of
monkfish that can be caught, a circumstance that contributes to their depletion
through overfishing.
a circumstance   我觉得太远不好,因为它指代There are no legal limits。但是a circumstance 又没有连接词,句子结构有问题。
34#
发表于 2004-10-14 03:29:00 | 只看该作者

Q41:
When drive-ins were at the height of their popularity in the late 1950’s, some 4,000
existed in the United States, but today there are less than one-quarter that many.
A. there are less than one-quarter that many
B. there are fewer than one-quarter as many
C. there are fewer than one-quarter of that amount
D. the number is less than one-quarter the amount
E. it is less than one-quarter of that amount


我怎么看也觉得D也不错。


D: 数学题里"the number is less than..."多了去了,所以less than 没错;前面的贴子也谈到OG里有half women,所以one-quarter the amount也应该没错


C: 应该是省略了主语drive-ins,因为fewer没有名词词形。假设one-quarter the amount=100


C可以写成(1)there are fewer drive-ins than 100;或者(2)there are drive-ins fewer than 100.


(1)(2)比较双方不对等:drive-ins和数字100


另外there be强调的是存在性,而本题是想对比数量。


请高手指点!


[此贴子已经被作者于2004-10-14 4:05:55编辑过]
35#
发表于 2004-10-17 01:24:00 | 只看该作者
41题,我也同意选D,因为本题考察 FEW 修饰 MANY(DRIVE-INS),LESS 修饰AMOUNT 或者NUMBER,A 中 LESS THAN。。。MANY (DRIVER-INS),B 中FEWER THAN。。。AS,C中 FEWER THAN 。。。THAT AMOUNT,都错,E中IT 无清晰指代,故D对
36#
发表于 2004-10-20 16:42:00 | 只看该作者

41,d。c错

37#
发表于 2004-10-22 23:51:00 | 只看该作者

When drive-ins were at the height of their popularity in the late 1950’s, some 4,000
existed in the United States, but today there are less than one-quarter that many.
A. there are less than one-quarter that many
B. there are fewer than one-quarter as many
C. there are fewer than one-quarter of that amount
D. the number is less than one-quarter the amount
E. it is less than one-quarter of that amount

这题有省略成分吧,具体如下:

When drive-ins were at the height of their popularity in the late 1950’s, (there were)some 4,000 (drive-ins) existed in the United States, but today there are fewer than one-quarter of that amount (of drive-ins existed in the United States). 所以是更少的drive-ins,而不是更少的number. 当然这样理解的话,只能把existed看成过去分词做状语,这样又会有什么问题? 自己也没想明白。 希望得到nn指点。

38#
发表于 2004-10-23 00:00:00 | 只看该作者

11题如果-fish在这里可以理解为复数的话,我同意A选项。虽然我两次都选了C, 但其实觉得C也问题多多, 最大的问题就是which指代不明确,感觉象是代替monkfish的,导致句意逻辑关系不对。 但是又非常想同意monkfish在这里是表一类鱼的说法,继续困扰ing.

39#
发表于 2004-10-25 02:01:00 | 只看该作者

GWD8-Q11:
There are no legal limits, as there are for cod and haddock, on the size of monkfish that
can be caught, a circumstance that contributes to their depletion through overfishing.


A. There are no legal limits, as there are for cod and haddock, on the size of
monkfish that can be caught, a circumstance that contributes to their depletion
through overfishing.
B. There are no legal limits on the size of monkfish that can be caught, unlike cod or
haddock, a circumstance that contributes to depleting them because they are being
overfished.
C. There are legal limits on the size of cod and haddock that can be caught, but not
for monkfish, which contributes to its depletion through overfishing.
D. Unlike cod and haddock, there are no legal size limits on catching monkfish,
which contributes to its depletion by being overfished.
E. Unlike catching cod and haddock, there are no legal size limits on catching
monkfish, contributing to their depletion because they are overfished.

Q11 is a problematic question.

I chose A not C just because "...monkfish, which contributes to..." is not an acceptable structure (according to OG)  to describe the fact/situation in the previous clauses. If 'which' modifies monkfish, it creates illogical meaning that monkfish will generate (its) own depletion.   

But "their" in A to modify monkfish as a spieces different from Cod and Hadcock seems to be less appropriate than "its". Thus, "their" is a confusing referent to either "monkfish" as a collective noun or "Cod and Hadcock" as a group.

NN, please help!!

GWD8-Q41

When drive-ins were at the height of their popularity in the late 1950’s, some 4,000
existed in the United States, but today there are less than one-quarter that many.
A. there are less than one-quarter that many
B. there are fewer than one-quarter as many
C. there are fewer than one-quarter of that amount
D. the number is less than one-quarter the amount
E. it is less than one-quarter of that amount

Q41 is a problematic question.

I chose C based on feeling. But I have the impression that in OG, "amount" usually refers to uncountable noun, such as water, energy and resource, not to countable nouns, such as cars, relations and memories, in this case, 4000 drive-ins. "number" rather than "amount" seems to be more OG-like.

But “amounts” can refer to countable nouns, see OG 243, amounts of suspected carcinogens…

Other examples in OG:

101. Even though the direct costs of malpractice disputes amounts to a sum lower than one percent of the $541 billion the nation spent on health care last year, doctors say fear of lawsuits plays a major role in health-care inflation.

(A)  amounts to a sum lower

(B)  amounts to less

(C)  amounted to less

(D)  amounted to lower

(E)   amounted to a lower sum

The correct choice must feature a verb that agrees with the plural noun costs and refers to an action completed last year (past tense). The verb amounts in A and B fulfills neither condition, and amounts to a sum in A is redundant. The same redundancy occurs in E, and the construction a lower sum than is awkward and imprecise in the context of the sentence. In D, the adjective lower is erroneously used in place of the noun less as object of the preposition to. Choice C is best.

132. According to a study by the Carnegie Foundation for the Advancement of Teaching, companies in the United States are providing job training and general education for nearly eight million people, about equivalent to the enrollment of the nation's four-year colleges and universities.

(A)  equivalent to the enrollment of

(B)  the equivalent of those enrolled in

(C)  equal to those who are enrolled in

(D)  as many as the enrollment of

(E)   as many as are enrolled in

The phrases equivalent to in A, the equivalent of in B, and equal to in C have too broad a range of meanings to be used precisely here: that is, they can suggest more than merely numerical equality. Also, as quantitative expressions, equiva­lent and equal often modify nouns referring to uncountable things, as in "an equivalent amount of resistance" or "a volume of water equal to Lake Michigan." To establish numerical comparability between groups with countable members, the phrase as many as is preferable. Choice D, however, uses this phrase improperly in comparing eight million people to enrollment, not to other people. The comparison in E, the best choice, is logical because people is understood as the subject of are enrolled.

amount in Webster:

usage Number is regularly used with count nouns <a large number of mistakes> <any number of times> while amount is mainly used with mass nouns <annual amount of rainfall> <a substantial amount of money>. The use of amount with count nouns has been frequently criticized; it usually occurs when the number of things is thought of as a mass or collection <glad to furnish any amount of black pebbles -- New Yorker> <a substantial amount of film offers -- Lily Tomlin> or when money is involved <a substantial amount of loans -- E. R. Black>.

40#
发表于 2004-10-31 20:59:00 | 只看该作者
以下是引用gmat700+在2004-7-16 2:40:00的发言:


我的理解是:法律没有限制monkfish的捕捞数量,而对cod and haddock法律上就有捕捞数量的限制,所以monkfish现在被过度捕捞。


同意GMAT 700+的意思!从错误的C 的意思 其实就能看出来A 的意思到底是什么!觉得A 省略了as there are (limits) for cod and haddock

所以我同意LES JJ 说的THEIR 指代的是MONKFISH  !

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