prep 2-139 对语法笔记正确选项解释的疑问

dingxiang

以下是引用rorarora在2008-8-18 10:34:00的发言：

这个我认为还是修饰attempt, 原文的意思是说，一个修改amendment的行动，早在20年前就开始了，但是至今未有明确的结果。

begun 和has been刚好对比说明了attempt这么多年都没有结果呀。

你这样一说，不是又觉得分词不是就近修饰了么？ 不是又把我们前面辛辛苦苦总结的东东推翻了么？

前面大家都认为是就近修饰了啊

AlienX

umm...prep2-139中的located應該是修opening, 因為一個800分的老外GMAT說的...
以下是他的explanation:
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in fact, the entirety of the following is the modifier:


    each of which has fingerlike projections poking through the opening, called the taste pore, located at the top of taste bud
    

    

the underlined part is actually a modifier within a modifier. if you
remove that, it becomes much easier to see that what's left is ALL a
modifier:


    each of which has fingerlike projections poking through the opening located at the top of taste bud
    

    

therefore, the remaining skeleton sentence is just


    Taste buds are onion-shaped structures with between 50 and 100 taste cells.

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120: Amendment是不可能被begun吧...我用google to search such combination against nytimes.com, 沒有Amendment begun, 可是attempt begun是用的

rorarora

活活，mm的分析真是仔细，有几点：

1）base on绝对有主动的用法，见下面两例：

Most airlines base their waiting lists on the cost of the individual ticket.

Critics of the market economy base their position on the following points.

2）我认为B的based on修饰的还是主谓这个动作，表达的就是the Mocha based their society on....

如果只是修饰society, 那么前后句子的联系就松散多了，那为什么要用由Mocha发出的harvesting 和exploitation呢？

你其他的comment我通通同意，感谢赐教，哈哈。

我觉得自己完全是难题看多了，什么都能怀疑。

AlienX

我看到的大部分的題, comma+過去分詞是修就近, *if* comma之前的不是插入短語...

AlienX

Q16中的based是修society

rorarora

以下是引用dingxiang在2008-8-18 10:41:00的发言：

你这样一说，不是又觉得分词不是就近修饰了么？ 不是又把我们前面辛辛苦苦总结的东东推翻了么？

前面大家都认为是就近修饰了啊

小姐呀，

我前面举了这么多例子，就是要说明，分词是就近修饰名词，

但是，当n. + to do sth或者其他修饰该名词的成分，+v.ed的时候，v-ed, 是既可以修饰相邻词，又可以跳跃修饰主名词的，要依逻辑含义而定。

只不过LZ的例子，刚刚好逻辑上是修饰相邻词而已

AlienX

hmm...可能如rorarora對120的看法一樣, "n+to do sth, v-ed"中的v-ed是修那個n...
search了prep1 & OG10, 沒有example...
先記下...thanks

dingxiang

还来不及看各位的comments，待我过会儿

看到PREP又一个例子，证明分词是就近修饰的

101. (29777-!-item-!-188;#058&004380)

The electronics company has unveiled what it claims to be the world's smallest network digital camcorder, the length of which is that of a handheld computer, and it weighs less than 11 ounces.
(B) to be the smallest network digital camcorder in the world, which is as long as a handheld computer, weighing
(C) is the smallest network digital camcorder in the world, which is as long as a handheld computer, and it weighs
(D) is the world's smallest network digital camcorder, which is as long as a handheld computer and weighs
(E) is the world's smallest network digital camcorder, the length of which is that of a handheld computer, weighing

E错误的原因就在于weighing 就近修饰computer， 证明分词是就近修饰的，不能跳过插入语来修饰更前面的

dingxiang

以下是引用AlienX在2008-8-18 10:44:00的发言：
umm...prep2-139中的located應該是修opening, 因為一個800分的老外GMAT說的...
以下是他的explanation:
===============================

in fact, the entirety of the following is the modifier:


 each of which has fingerlike projections poking through the opening, called the taste pore, located at the top of taste bud
 

 

the underlined part is actually a modifier within a modifier. if you
remove that, it becomes much easier to see that what's left is ALL a
modifier:


 each of which has fingerlike projections poking through the opening located at the top of taste bud
 

 

therefore, the remaining skeleton sentence is just


 Taste buds are onion-shaped structures with between 50 and 100 taste cells.

===============================

还是不敢苟同，理由我前面讲过了

我们不要把插入成分删掉的话each of which has fingerlike projections poking through the opening, called the taste pore, located at the top of taste bud

called 修饰opening 大家都同意了吧， 如果locate再修饰 opening ，为什么没有and 来连接？我觉得不能单单用因为called是插入语来解释

dingxiang

以下是引用rorarora在2008-8-18 10:46:00的发言：

活活，mm的分析真是仔细，有几点：

1）base on绝对有主动的用法，见下面两例：－－－－》 ok ，偶更正。不过偶还是认为GMAT里面用被动多些。

Most airlines base their waiting lists on the cost of the individual ticket.

Critics of the market economy base their position on the following points.

2）我认为B的based on修饰的还是主谓这个动作，表达的就是the Mocha based their society on....

如果只是修饰society, 那么前后句子的联系就松散多了，那为什么要用由Mocha发出的harvesting 和exploitation呢？－－－－》 不同意。 如果真的是人base 的话，肯定牙用主动态啊，怎么还是过去分词呢？

你其他的comment我通通同意，感谢赐教，哈哈。

我觉得自己完全是难题看多了，什么都能怀疑。