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FeiFei-45(have read the discussion,but still confused)

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楼主
发表于 2006-7-18 04:41:00 | 只看该作者

FeiFei-45(have read the discussion,but still confused)

45. Commissioner: Budget forecasters project a revenue shortfall of a billion dollars in the coming fiscal year. Since there is no feasible way to increase the available funds, our only choice is to decrease expenditures. The plan before you outlines feasible cuts that would yield savings of a billion dollars over the coming fiscal year. We will be able to solve the problem we face, therefore, only if we adopt this plan.


This reasoning in the commissioner’s argument is flawed because this argument


(A) relies on information that is far from certain


(B) confuses being an adequate solution with being a required solution


(C) inappropriately relies on the opinions of experts


(D) inappropriately employs language that is vague


(E) takes for granted that there is no way to increase available funds

so what is the "an adequate solution "and " a required solution "?Please help!!!!

沙发
发表于 2006-7-18 10:50:00 | 只看该作者

I would choose C. However, it doesn't look like an ETS question to me.

"An adequate solution" is a good solution, while "a required solution" may not be a good one.

板凳
 楼主| 发表于 2006-7-19 04:08:00 | 只看该作者
but the choice is B,still confused! thank you!
地板
发表于 2006-7-19 04:21:00 | 只看该作者
以下是引用happylifelin在2006-7-19 4:08:00的发言:
but the choice is B,still confused! thank you!

Sorry I typed it wrong, I ment I chose B.

Which part are you still confused about?

5#
 楼主| 发表于 2006-7-19 05:39:00 | 只看该作者
I think I'm not confused now because you have answered me the similar question. Thank you mbz!
6#
发表于 2006-7-19 11:53:00 | 只看该作者

大家再讨论一下

谁是required solution

谁是adequate solution

7#
发表于 2006-7-19 12:14:00 | 只看该作者

"required solution":

 The plan before you outlines feasible cuts that would yield savings of a billion dollars over the coming fiscal year.

but the commissioner considers it an "adequate one."

8#
发表于 2006-8-13 17:52:00 | 只看该作者

引述於  mbz      "required solution":
 The plan before you outlines feasible cuts that would yield savings of a billion dollars over the coming fiscal year.
but the commissioner considers it an "adequate one."

 45. Commissioner: Budget forecasters project a revenue shortfall of a billion dollars in the coming fiscal year. Since there is no feasible way to increase the available funds, our only choice is to decrease expenditures. The plan before you outlines feasible cuts that would yield savings of a billion dollars over the coming fiscal year. We will be able to solve the problem we face, therefore, only if we adopt this plan.
    

This reasoning in the commissioner’s argument is flawed because this argument
    

(A) relies on information that is far from certain
   

(B) confuses being an adequate solution with being a required solution
   

(C) inappropriately relies on the opinions of experts
   

(D) inappropriately employs language that is vague
   

(E) takes for granted that there is no way to increase available funds
   

ANS: B

可否请NN帮忙从哪些Signal Word 或是关系的推理表明the commissioner considers it an "adequate one." ? 如引述所言 ~

 

 

我原先的理解方式是,commissioner consider :
only if we adopt this plan, they will be able to solve the problem they face.

因为有only if 所以认为此句是adequate solution.
而这里这个plan 是指decrease expenditures= feasible cuts
那,adequate solution 应该是available funds

我的疑问是, 此题中, 句尾的 only if不是该属于 required solution ?
从前人那总结了一些重点. 以下是lawyer_1 过去版上讨论所写的~
充分必要条件指示词

1.introduce a sufficient condition: if/when/whenever/every/all/any/people who/in order to/to

2.introduce a necessary condition: then/only/only if/must/require/no,none(在句子开头)

不知我的理解上是否有错, 望请NN 们帮忙指导~
谢谢~~~~

不知我的理解上是否有错, 望请NN 们帮忙指导~
谢谢~~~~

 


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9#
发表于 2006-8-15 18:49:00 | 只看该作者
以下是引用swenet2000在2006-8-13 17:52:00的发言:

我原先的理解方式是,commissioner consider :
only if we adopt this plan, they will be able to solve the problem they face.

因为有only if 所以认为此句是adequate solution.
而这里这个plan 是指decrease expenditures= feasible cuts
那,adequate solution 应该是available funds

我的疑问是, 此题中, 句尾的 only if不是该属于 required solution ?
从前人那总结了一些重点. 以下是lawyer_1 过去版上讨论所写的~
充分必要条件指示词

1.introduce a sufficient condition: if/when/whenever/every/all/any/people who/in order to/to

2.introduce a necessary condition: then/only/only if/must/require/no,none(在句子开头)

不知我的理解上是否有错, 望请NN 们帮忙指导~
谢谢~~~~

不知我的理解上是否有错, 望请NN 们帮忙指导~
谢谢~~~~

不知我的理解上是否有错, 望请NN 们帮忙指导~
谢谢~~~~

想了很久,也说说吧

作者本来的意思是the plan before you is feasible-----此plan能够解决此problem,且没有否定其他plan也能解决此problem,对于问题的解决此方案可行,但不是必需的-----也就是adequate solution的意思吧

这里required solution是比不可少的意思-----结论说作者所提出的plan对于problem的解决必不可少(就是这句话We will be able to solve the problem we face, therefore, only if we adopt this plan),变成了necessary condition

所以说confuses being an adequate solution with being a required solution

因为有only if 所以认为此句是adequate solution.”-------我觉得应该理解成这个plan是一个required solution

而且不管是required solution还是adequate solution都应该指的是作者所提出的plan

继续讨论

10#
发表于 2006-8-15 18:59:00 | 只看该作者

而且这道题的感觉有些像FF-131哩:

131. To become an expert on a musical instrument, a person must practice. If a person practice a musical instrument for three hours each day, they will eventually become expert on that instrument. Therefore, if a person is an expert on a musical instrument, that person must have practiced for at least three hours each day.

Which one of the following most accurately describes a flaw in the reasoning above?

(A) The conclusion fails to take into account that people who practice for three hours every day might not yet have reached a degree of proficiency that everyone would consider expert.

(B) The conclusion fails to take into account that practicing for less than three hours each day may be enough for some people to become experts. (B)

Reference:

In my view, the reasoning in this argument is that:

a person practice a musical instrument for three hours each dayà they will eventually become expert

Under this circumstance , it is obvious that the fact that a person practice a musical instrument for three hours each day is sufficient to reach the sound conclusion that they will eventually become expert on that instrument. But this fact is not the necessary factor relevant to the conclusion that they will eventually become expert on that instrument.

After this analysis, we can make clear the logical flaw in this argument.

a person is an expert on a musical instrumentà person must have practiced for at least three hours each day


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