[求助]GWD-17-11

nowandthen

B绝对是错的。应该是D。

B的意思是由于这个限制，狩猎季节都提前结束了。限制是“reduced the population by 5%". So, it means somehow hunters had reached the 5% earlier than the hunting season for years.  Their ability of hunting the geese are proved to be good. So B supports the conclusion.

titatita

以下是引用nowandthen在2006-7-21 4:13:00的发言：

B绝对是错的。应该是D。

B的意思是由于这个限制，狩猎季节都提前结束了。限制是“reduced the population by 5%". So, it means somehow hunters had reached the 5% earlier than the hunting season for years.  Their ability of hunting the geese are proved to be good. So B supports the conclusion.

我觉得你的理解有误: Although snow geese are a popular quarry for hunters in the southern regions where they winter, the hunting season ends if and when hunting has reduced the population by five percent, according to official estimates.  所谓打猎季节结束的日子,就是如果且当雪鹅数量减少了5%的时候.比如说现在每年平均有1000只雪鹅,(官方估计)5%就是50只.按照正常打猎的情况假设3个月可以打死这50只.所以打猎季节是3个月.

b.It has been many years since the restriction led to the hunting season for snow geese being closed earlier than the scheduled date.

b说打猎季节提前结束,就是没到3个月的期限打猎就结束了,就是按照当地打猎者的能力(或其他原因)最多打10只,那么可能1个月他们就不可能再打下去,打猎季节就结束了.the scheduled date.清晰地指代文中的the hunting season ends if and when hunting has reduced the population by five percent

D用排除法可以排除.雪鹅只是从新回到曾经待过的地方,无关啊.对原文推理过程其不到任何作用.

titatita

补出一点:注意the schedule date是特指,一定是文章中提到的东西.如果按照你的理解,是其他日子而不是达到5%的日子.那么不能用特指.而是再用定语从句或泛指修饰.

nowandthen

我理解的正是如此，那个日子正是预先设定好5％的日子。但是人家早打了5％了，就只好提前结束了，再打就超过5％了。 Since hunters are so good at it, then if the restriction is removed, they will be able to hunt a lot of geese。 Thus it supports the conclusion.

There's no reason to assume, the hunter didn't hunt enough geese so the hunting season ended earlier.

mbz

以下是引用nowandthen在2006-7-21 10:27:00的发言：

我理解的正是如此，那个日子正是预先设定好5％的日子。但是人家早打了5％了，就只好提前结束了，再打就超过5％了。 Since hunters are so good at it, then if the restriction is removed, they will be able to hunt a lot of geese。 Thus it supports the conclusion.

There's no reason to assume, the hunter didn't hunt enough geese so the hunting season ended earlier.

Sorry I have to point out that your understanding is wrong here.

Please take a look at choice B below:

B) It has been many years since the restriction led to the hunting season for snow geese being closed earlier than the scheduled date.

It means that for the last many years, people did not hunt enough to meet the minimum requirement to shut down the area before deadline.

B is hence an obvious choice.

nowandthen

Ah. I guess that the mistake is from the understanding of "it has been....since...". You are right. I took it as "it has been...that...".  They are exactly the opposite.

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xiaoerhei

我认为答案：D

大家针对B的讨论的焦点，是对B怎么理解？

理解1：因为猎人原因（猎人技术很好，在很短的时间内就打到了很多GEESE）导致狩猎季节提前结束的状况，已经很多年了，过去的几年中狩猎季节都是提前结束了。

理解2：因为猎人原因（猎人技术很好，在很短的时间内就打到了很多GEESE）导致狩猎季节提前结束的情况是很多年前发生了，过去的几年及最近不再发生提前结束的状况了。

如若理解1，那么B就是加强原文,是错误答案。如若理解2，则B可以在一定程度上削弱原文。

个人倾向理解1.因为 it has been....since...的意思就是，自从什么什么以来，已经怎么怎么了。

另，即使是理解2，那么B也只是有可能消弱原文，毕竟过去几年的情况未必一定适合将来，所以它只是有可能削弱原文。而D则一定会削弱原文。因为取消打猎限制后，尽管GEESE会减少，但由于它们可以跑到别的地方过冬，避开被捕猎（注意原文中的一句话：snow geese are a popular quarry
            for hunters in the southern regions where they winter.这句话是说：GEESE在南部他们过冬的地区是受猎人欢迎的猎物。这样只要他们跑到别的地方，就不再是猎人的popular quarry了，这样就避免了被猎杀），所以这种减少会被消弱，也就是说即使捕猎限制被取消，GEESE的数量也不会大幅的减少，从而削弱原文。

open to discuss.

kallyli

楼上,它们跑到其他地方也不会对当地其他鸟类构成威胁了,文章关键点落在"dropping this restriction would allow the other species to recover."不是猎人能不能对它们构成威胁. D无关

排除D只剩B可以选了,但是我想问一下mbz, it has been many years...since...这句话在美国人眼里到底是怎么翻译的.如果单单从语法来讲,since后只是一个时间点, 翻译成"自从...已经有很多年了",而这么多年是什么样的,并没有说啊. 如果照你那么翻译,是不是这个句式是美国人的习惯用法,它就是翻译成"自从...一直没有再这样了"

mbz

以下是引用kallyli在2006-7-24 16:28:00的发言：

排除D只剩B可以选了,但是我想问一下mbz, it has been many years...since...是不是这个句式是美国人的习惯用法,它就是翻译成"自从...一直没有再这样了"

you are absolutely correct.

kallyli

thanks, I guess you're a Chinese with American nationality...