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在bw看到的,真气人,某跟贴的ABC更可气

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发表于 2006-2-15 06:57:00 | 只看该作者

最可气的是印度人,韩国人,还有 越南人, 我在网上都见过他们的GMAT考试的网站,但是目前没有人blame 他们.

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发表于 2006-2-15 07:21:00 | 只看该作者
一句话,基本同意eeyupyup的观点。
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发表于 2006-2-15 08:38:00 | 只看该作者
以下是引用pooryou在2006-2-15 4:54:00的发言:

LS的,这样写的话不是暴露GWD了吗?


另外,我个人觉得看机经,大家交流经验, 不能算cheat,只能说是trick.现实的商业社会里,哪家公司不用trick?还不是争着钻法律的空子,千方百计的避税, 很多跨国公司通过关联企业转移利润降低缴税额也是其中一种吧.



违反自己在考试前一字一句抄下并签署的声明,把题目背下来贴在网上甚至利用其达成某些商业目的,这还叫做钻法律的空子吗?至少是不诚实吧?法律有空子当然要去钻,但没有空子在自己心里制造理由也要去违反的,不知道叫什么了。


我知道有人会说我站着说话不腰疼。不错,我的腰就是不疼,我当初就是傻到不知道有JJ真题什么的就去考了,你们BS我吧,我不会BS背题者的,就像我在绿灯前老老实实等着过马路的时候不会BS急急忙忙冲过去的同胞的。毕竟像eeyupyup所说的,学校不会傻到只看GMAT成绩来招人的。


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发表于 2006-2-15 08:41:00 | 只看该作者
以下是引用miaoyin_tx在2006-2-15 6:57:00的发言:

最可气的是印度人,韩国人,还有 越南人, 我在网上都见过他们的GMAT考试的网站,但是目前没有人blame 他们.



想想小时候违反纪律被老师批评的时候,你说:某某和某某也这么干……这时候老师是怎么教育你的吧?


还有,韩国、印度的cheating问题早就引起美国人注意了,可是谁抗得过中国人多呢?

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发表于 2006-2-15 09:24:00 | 只看该作者
很多ABC都很讨厌中国人,故意和我们拉开距离,自己想拼命往西方那边靠,西方那边的人能又不要看他们,所以他们叫banana,就是被人在地上踩,没人瞧得起。
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发表于 2006-2-15 09:54:00 | 只看该作者
以下是引用windhcz在2006-2-15 9:24:00的发言:
很多ABC都很讨厌中国人,故意和我们拉开距离,自己想拼命往西方那边靠,西方那边的人能又不要看他们,所以他们叫banana,就是被人在地上踩,没人瞧得起。


I think you should stand on their ground to consider your words.


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发表于 2006-2-15 10:20:00 | 只看该作者
贴全文了:

B-SCHOOL NEWS

By Louis Lavelle



In China, GMAT Cheaters May Prosper



Some Chinese B-school candidates' studying methods are less than aboveboard as they struggle to avoid poverty by securing spots at top universities
With the score he received on the Graduate Management Admissions Test (GMAT), the 21-year-old finance student at Shanghai's Fudan University easily could have been admitted to a top-ten U.S. B-school. He scored 650 out of a possible 800 points -- a score that's 58 points above the Chinese national average, but one he considers so low that it nearly brings him to tears. So he hit the books this summer, studying several hours a day to prepare for a second shot at the exam. He also did something a lot of would-be MBAs in China are doing these days: He peeked at the test


On a Chinese-language Web site, GMAT test takers disclose questions they have memorized so that others can use them. It's a violation of the GMAT confidentiality agreement, but it's a remarkably efficient way to study. Some students say that half the questions they encounter on the test were previously posted on the site.
"DO-OR-DIE SITUATION."  In the hypercompetitive world of Chinese B-school admissions, students say the Web site is an advantage that's too good to pass up. And the strategy apparently works: The combination of book studying and online test preparation added 40 points to the Fudan student's score when he retook the test in September. Says his roommate, who scored 720 in June: "If everyone else is using it, why would we put ourselves at a disadvantage?"

The GMAT isn't the only admissions exam to test the mettle -- and determine the fate -- of young Chinese students. The national university entrance boards, China's version of the Scholastic Aptitude Test, is a grueling three-day exam that determines if they'll enter one of China's elite universities. The stakes are so high that public buses change their routes each June to avoid disturbing students; cities invoke noise ordinances; and parents seek professional psychiatric counseling for their teenagers -- all to help ambitious high school seniors do as well as they can on the test.

"For these kids, this is a do-or-die situation," says Rolf Cremer, dean of the China Europe International Business School, an educator in China for two decades. In the starkest circumstances, "a high score means the best universities China can offer, and a low one -- lifelong poverty."

STEPPING UP SECURITY.  So the temptation to cut corners is immense. To stem security breaches, the Graduate Management Admissions Council (GMAC), the GMAT's overseer, must work harder in China. Some security measures are already built into the GMAT. The test, taken on computers, is programmed to choose new questions based on the answers to previous questions -- making it virtually impossible for two students to take the same exam.

Yet such measures have been defeated before. The Graduate Record Examination, a graduate-school admissions test administered by Princeton (N.J.)-based Educational Testing Service, takes similar precautions. But in 2002, a sudden rise in verbal scores among GRE test takers in some Asian countries led ETS to suspect that students were sharing questions. ETS now requires test takers in China, Korea, and Taiwan to use GRE's one-time-use paper version for everything but essay questions.

Students taking the GMAT already encounter a raft of security measures, including cameras, videotaping, and fingerprinting. In January, when a new test administrator takes over for ETS, security will be ramped up even further, GMAC says.

MORAL AMBIGUITY.  Even so, no security system is perfect. In 2003, GMAC, along with ETS, sued the New Oriental School, China's largest test-preparation service, alleging that it gave students copies of actual exam questions that were then in use. Last December, China's highest court awarded GMAC and ETS $774,000 in damages and a public apology.

New Oriental says it has since cleaned up its act, but others have rushed in to fill the void. Several Web sites and university bulletin boards purport to have potential GMAT questions and other helpful hints for beating the system. The site used by the two Fudan students goes a step further, supplying verbatim questions from the test.

In the intense fight for B-school admission and all the advantages it confers, many Chinese students believe the end justifies the means. In the business world, such moral ambiguity is often a prelude to disaster. Apparently that's a lesson every generation has to learn for itself.

With bureau reports
Lavelle is BusinessWeek's B-Schools editor

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发表于 2006-2-15 10:34:00 | 只看该作者
以下是引用windhcz在2006-2-15 9:24:00的发言:
很多ABC都很讨厌中国人,故意和我们拉开距离,自己想拼命往西方那边靠,西方那边的人能又不要看他们,所以他们叫banana,就是被人在地上踩,没人瞧得起。

都是中国人,你说什么呢?

29#
发表于 2006-2-15 10:38:00 | 只看该作者

我觉得楼上的这篇文章说的还是比较客观的啊。既然在考试的时候签署了不泄露考题的保证,事后泄露就是违反了约定,就是一种欺骗。不仅仅是trick的问题了。这个必须承认啊。当然这有一个角度:泄露题目的人是欺骗,但是使用这些题目而且从未参加过考试的人就不是欺骗了,因为他们没有和ETS或者GMAC签署过这样的保证,所以没有必要去理会什么遵守协定啦。

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发表于 2006-2-15 10:46:00 | 只看该作者
拜托,很多abc不觉得自己是中国人,你以为阿
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