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joice

sect 18-10
mm,
C) U.S MM like Chinese GG, but Chinese gg can't eat pizza, which is the only food availabe to chinese gg. so Chinese gg can't survive in U.S.   like Dinosaur.
think of AIDS if you don't like ' pizza'.

A) Not all sounds wrong.


mm, i hope no gg sees this. otherwise, i am dead.

[此贴子已经被作者于2003-10-3 23:12:20编辑过]

祈晴坊主

以下是引用joice在2003-10-3 22:33:00的发言：
sect 18-10
mm,
C) U.S MM like Chinese GG, but Chinese gg can't eat pizza, which is the only food availabe to chinese gg. so Chinese gg can't survive in U.S.   like Dinosaur.
think of AIDS if you don't like ' pizza'.

A) Not all sounds wrong.


mm, i hope no gg see this. otherwise, i am dead.

[此贴子已经被作者于2003-10-3 22:40:44编辑过]

got it
does it mean that not all can't cover the whole
right

hehe

btw.

JJ's word's becoming more and more interesting

hehe

i love it

really sounds like a skillful teacher,

fyhllj

以下是引用joice在2003-10-3 22:33:00的发言：
sect 18-10
mm,
C) U.S MM like Chinese GG, but Chinese gg can't eat pizza, which is the only food availabe to chinese gg. so Chinese gg can't survive in U.S.   like Dinosaur.
think of AIDS if you don't like ' pizza'.

A) Not all sounds wrong.


mm, i hope no gg sees this. otherwise, i am dead.

[此贴子已经被作者于2003-10-3 23:12:20编辑过]

I finally find that Joice is really logic master because she can paraphrase a choice to such level. That's fantastic!

fyhllj

joice

remeo

祈晴坊主：不好意思，我实在困得不行了，明天早上还要摸考，中午一回来就帮你看！

remeo

以下是引用祈晴坊主在2003-10-3 22:12:00的发言：
XDF set 18

7. Fresh potatoes generally cost about $2 for a 10-pound
  bag, whereas dehydrated instant potatoes cost, on aver-
  age, about $3 per pound. It can be concluded that some
  consumers will pay 15 times as much for convenience,
  since sales of this convenience food continue to rise.

   Which of the following, if true, indicates that there is
   a major flaw in the argument above?
   (A) Fresh potatoes bought in convenient 2-pound
       bags are about $1 a bag, or 2 1/2 times more
       expensive than fresh potatoes bought in
       10-pound bags.
   (B) Since fresh potatoes are 80 percent water, one
       pound of dehydrated potatoes is the equivalent
       of 5 pounds of fresh potatoes.
   (C) Peeled potatoes in cans are also more expensive
       than the less convenient fresh potatoes.
   (D) Retail prices of dehydrated potatoes have declined
       by 20 percent since 1960 to the current level of
       about $3 a pound.
   (E) As a consequence of labor and processing costs,
       all convenience foods cost more than the basic
       foods from which they are derived.

这个答案的意思我看不懂

答案你看不懂？我也看不懂，呵呵，开个玩笑，可是你也最好把答案写出来了，也像我那样开擂台不是？

我觉得此题选B，不知是不是这个答案。BTW，你的XDF补充材料答案是否有错，跟我那题不一致的答案？

此题问削弱，读原文结论句可知削弱的对象是It can be concluded that some
  consumers will pay 15 times as much for convenience,
  since sales of this convenience food continue to rise.
也就是说作者仅从第一句价格上的差异得到了这个结论，
而B说明了因为脱水的西红柿本来净含量就本来就高于新鲜的，所以并不是因为他的方便导致人们要多花15的价钱来买脱水的。不知我解释清楚了没？

remeo

以下是引用祈晴坊主在2003-10-3 22:13:00的发言：
10. Purebred cows native to Mongolia produce, on aver-
    age, 400 liters of milk per year; if Mongolian cattle
    are crossbred with European breeds, the crossbred
    cows can produce, on average, 2,700 liters per year.
    An international agency plans to increase the profita-
   bility of Mongolia’s dairy sector by encouraging wide-
    spread crossbreeding of native Mongolian cattle with
    European breeds.

    Which of the following, if true, casts the most serious
    doubt on the viability of the agency’s plan?
   (A) Not all European breeds of cattle can be success-
        fully bred with native Mongolian cattle.
   (B) Many young Mongolians now regard cattle raising
        as a low-status occupation because it is less
        lucrative than other endeavors open to them.
    (C) Mongolia’s terrain is suitable for grazing native
        herds but not for growing the fodder needed to
        keep crossbred animals healthy.
    (D) Cowhide and leather products, not milk, make
        up the bulk of Mongolia’s animal product
        exports to Europe.
    (E) Many European breeds of cattle attain average
        milk production levels exceeding 2,700 liters.

答案选C
我选A

这个C中和 animals healthy 似乎没有任何关系的说

粗看此题我是误选了 E，不过仔细再看一下，发现其实A犯了致命的错误：都是在反对原文不可更改的事实。读文章知道削弱的对象如下：
An international agency plans to increase the profita-
   bility of Mongolia’s dairy sector by encouraging wide-
    spread crossbreeding of native Mongolian cattle with
    European breeds.
看(A) Not all European breeds of cattle can be success-
        fully bred with native Mongolian cattle.
这个选项是在说引进杂交的成功性，而原文的结论是在承认已经成功引进的前提，说这样可以increase the profitability of Mongolia’s dairy sector，你看对否？
而 (E) Many European breeds of cattle attain average
        milk production levels exceeding 2,700 liters.
也犯了类似的错误，现在结论就是在说提高M的产量就可以了，管他欧洲的提高还是降低，对不对？
所以说这2个都是错的，A是反对原文事实，E是不切原文重点，无关。

再看看C) Mongolia’s terrain is suitable for grazing native
        herds but not for growing the fodder needed to
        keep crossbred animals healthy.

就是说你虽然可以成功引进杂交品种，可是你却没法让他健康在M存活和产奶，这就直接削弱了原文结论的可行性。

不知我的回答清楚否？

BTW，我的CR也很一般的，误导你了就别怪我了。

祈晴坊主

以下是引用remeo在2003-10-4 15:39:00的发言：

答案你看不懂？我也看不懂，呵呵，开个玩笑，可是你也最好把答案写出来了，也像我那样开擂台不是？

我觉得此题选B，不知是不是这个答案。BTW，你的XDF补充材料答案是否有错，跟我那题不一致的答案？

此题问削弱，读原文结论句可知削弱的对象是It can be concluded that some
   consumers will pay 15 times as much for convenience,
   since sales of this convenience food continue to rise.
也就是说作者仅从第一句价格上的差异得到了这个结论，
而B说明了因为脱水的西红柿本来净含量就本来就高于新鲜的，所以并不是因为他的方便导致人们要多花15的价钱来买脱水的。不知我解释清楚了没？

答案是B
这题的题目我看错了，我以为问你为什么会得出15倍这个答案的

现在弄清楚看来，他给的一堆数字都是没用的是吗

可是，原文说的那个15倍是怎么出来的啊

祈晴坊主

呵呵

remeo 你的解释很强了
让我在joice JJ解释的基础上更加强了理解

谢谢啊

对了
你的逻辑这些题目是不是都做完了

这几天就模考啊

remeo

Fresh potatoes generally cost about $2 for a 10-pound
  bag, whereas dehydrated instant potatoes cost, on aver-
  age, about $3 per pound
15倍是这样得出来的：新鲜的是每10镑2元，等于每镑1/5元，而脱水的是每镑3元，所以是前面的15倍。

我的逻辑也有很多没做呢，XDF的就没做完，不过我现在不打算做了，考试前复习一下以前做完的就差不多了。我2天摸考一次把，你呢？主要在忙什么呢？