A feeling to the Ivey

lu_zhi

Haven't been here for a long time. Now I am an Ivey MBA 2007 student and I am glad that I made the right choice.

The first thing I would like to share with you guys is that Ivey is still the best b-school in Canada. You can tell it from the recruiters. If you want to develop yourself in Consulting industry, Ivey is the only choice for you in Canada. All of the most respected consulting companies will go to Ivey to recruit someone every year, if you are strong enough, you will get the chance. As to the Investment bank, although U of T maybe the best B-school in Finance, 25 to 30 percent Ivey graduates find their jobs in IB each year.

The second thing I would like to mention is Ivey is not for everyone. Its General management focusing, Case study method and Class contribution have distinguished it from the traditional B-school which focus on lectures. You have to STRUGGLE in EVERY class to contribute yourself, to follow the comments given by profs and classmates, to challenge and be challenged by your peers. If you enjoy the traditional way where the prof give the solo speech in the class, Never choose Ivey because Ivey is not for you.

The third thing is about the One-year program. I have to admit that this change in strategy will influence Chinese students a lot because you may have no time to accommodate yourself in a new environment and a new country. Therefore, if you can't be here, I mean Canada, in advance, or if your Oral English is not good enough to allow yourself to express yourself relatively freely, think it again to choose Ivey. I learned a lot in Ivey during the first term, while some Chinese students don't share the same feelings as me.

If you can be admitted by Top 10, don't come here; If you can't handle the presure when arguing with your classmates and profs, don't come here; If you are not confident to express yourself relative clearly to support your points, don't come here. However,  if you want to challenge yourself to see how far you can push yourself and what's your limits, Ivey is the only choice for you in Canada!

Personal opinion, Just for reference!

You can contact me at michael_zhilu(A) hotmail.com if you wish. Although I will try to reply asap, but on time reply is not gurantted. Sorry.

[此贴子已经被作者于2005-12-30 14:06:59编辑过]

cheeyong

顶。

天天灿烂

Thank you so much~!

Ivey is one the dream B-schools of mine.

Good luck in Canada.

seekmydream

Thanks for your opinion.

I can't find any info on the website about the specializations that Ivey offers, and the courses related . Can you tell how to find these materials?

Many thanks!

hl2006

谢谢你的分享, 十分肯成!

1.我也在申请Ivey, 想问个问题, 如果想申请Ivey的Financial Aid, 是否申请Aid的资料(Scholarship Essay, Resume FinancialStatement etc.) 要单独邮寄 还是与申请材料同时邮寄?

2.如果需要单独邮寄, 是等到申请Approve 后邮寄?

多谢!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

forum

thanks for sharing

lu_zhi

a few points:

To hl2006 : I suggest that you should send the materials at the same time. In my opinion, It will be no use to send the financial aid essay after you get the offer because in your offer, there should have the information about the scholarship.

To seekmydream: Although Ivey is good at General management, students there can still select some Specialized coursed such as finance or marketing to focus themselvems on some industry in the second year. I don't think you can find too much information about it on the website, because I can't find them either. ^-^

modern

樓主 抱歉打個岔

有關這標題......

feeling後面能用to的嗎?
我怎不記得有這個語法考點了.....?

feel這是感覺怎會用"到" 呢....   另外固定用法是不是feel + about??  國中語法忘光了><

sean1255

well, I am too, a student of Ivey 2007. But my personal feeling is much different. Obviously my fellow buddy stated too much goodies about Ivey, which might sound encouraging, but actually far away from the reality.

First, Ivey stubbornly thinks that it is still the absolute No 1 in Canada and the 1st tier in the world. But the reality is: it is sliding to 2nd tier or even 3rd tier in the world, and in Canada, it is losing ground to other schools too. Rotman is becoming No1, obviously, just look at their job replacement rate and the recruiters' comments. Yes, Ivey still has advantages, mainly because its history and alumni. But when we shall not underestimate the power of alumni, we shall not overestimate it too. Consulting companies said that Ivey students did not prepare well in their case interviews, well, as a case study school, I really did not see any excuses here. As to Investment Banking, boy, I donot know where Michael got the data, 25-30%? NO,NO,NO. Actually many IBanks have not come to Ivey for years. Michael's data might be finance jobs, but that is huge difference between finance jobs (some Canadian banks' manager trainee positions) vs IBanking. I have not heard anyone from Ivey last year, this year so far, got job offers from big IBanks.

Michael's second point is half right, half wrong. Yes, Ivey is not for everyone, but that should not be sounded as a priviledge. No school is for everyone, that is for sure, and Ivey is not an exemption too. Its different style simply means its different style, does it mean Ivey's style is good or bad? Really tough questions. You say it is good? but the results show the opposite. You say it is bad? then Harvard uses the same style, and everybody thinks Harvard is the king. So my view is that it is not actually matter that much which style a school choose, the only thing matters is the result. As long as the school's ranking is good, the job replacement rate is good, the students' feeling is good, then the style is good for that school. The same as the opposite. So in Ivey's case, you can make your own judgement.

As to the one year program, since it is new, then we can really say nothing about it. But we could do some analysis: what is the problem of Ivey? Does changing to one year help to solve the problem? To me, I think the problem of Ivey is that its education focus is away from the market needs, yet the ego of Ivey does not want to admit and correct the problem. Then change to one year would have no positive effects at all. It is like a gambler, who is losing his shirt, and trying to bet the last bet. Hehehehe.....

So, I am not intentionally against Ivey, it might be a top school years ago, but now it is not. However, the school and some of its students are still living in the glorious dreams, and draw a fancy picture for applicants. Which I think is not right.

cicilla

I know little about Ivey, but one of my collegue only got the offer from Ivey last year, but finally he reapplied other business schools in US this year.