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The UConn program had had a glowing history of placements in the 2010s and earlier decades, with a sizable proportion at decent research schools. However, it is reported to have been going downhill in recent years. Therefore, in order to reflect its marked downward trend, we have now moved the program down to Tier 4 in the Placement Rankings.

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勒芒战将 发表于 2022-10-5 05:47
What do you think about the PhD program of these two universities: (1) Oregon State University; (2 ...

Thank you for bringing up these two programs, which are excluded from the Placement Rankings. This is by design. The Oregon State University program was only launched a few years ago and only has one concentration at present. Moreover, its future is predicted to be highly uncertain. The University of Hawaii program has traditionally more aligned with Asian programs than those in North America. More importantly, its placement record seems to have been consistently lackluster.   

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New Version of Carnegie Classification of Institutions of Higher Learning in the Making

The Carnegie Classification of Institutions of Higher Learning is highly influential as it concerns various parties at universities and colleges -- from presidents all the way down to individual faculty members -- in faculty workload appointionment and promotions as well as other matters. Also, for PhD applicants and those on the job market, these classifications often have a bearing on their decision making processes (indeed, they feature frequently in the discussions on this forum).

The Carnegie Foundation for the Advancement of Teaching and the American Council on Education have joined hands in revamping the Carnegie Classifications by exploring a more rational ranking methodology, and the new version or generations of Classifications is slated to be released in 2024, or more than a year from now. At that time, the Research 1 versus Research 2 dichotomy may no longer be relevant.  

The current Classifications can be found here: List of research universities in the United States - Wikipedia.

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The 50-100 ranking list is very much talked about amongst applicants, but it is poorly defined. Indeed, which schools or programs belong to the 50-100 bracket lies in the eye of the beholder, so to speak. Nevertheless, they roughly correspond to those in Tier 4 and Tier 5 plus a few in Tier 3 in our Placement Rankings table. Clearly, they range from upper-middle to middle- and to lower- ranking, which is generally tacitly understood by anyone referring to or making use of the 50-100 list.

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The Management Information Systems program ranking posting in the forum (at https://forum.chasedream.com/thread-1320964-1-1.html) is frequently referred to by applicants in this concentration area. A quick glance at it shows that it is startlingly consistent with our Placement Rankings based on aggregate data. This serves as eloquent proof that the placement performance of a specific concentration, regardless of what it is, is generally positively correlated with the ranking of its home program. The higher the ranking of a program, the stronger the correlation. The implication of this statistical observation, though, is that the concentrations of a program that is middling or below often perform significantly unevenly. Therefore, we are contemplating reflecting this divergence or variance in the Placement Rankings by adding some information on the individual concentrations of a number of programs, particularly those that are mid-ranking.

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The job market for business PhDs is increasingly crowded or even on the verge of saturation for certain concentrations (e. g., Management). Also, the demand for business faculty in the post-coronavirus era is predicted to cool down to certain extent. Therefore, we cannot but wonder about the driving forces or motives underlying the debut of new programs (or new concentrations in existing programs) these days. For example, to what extent could a PhD program support faculty research and more broadly improve a school's visibility or research profile?  

Of the programs that have come into being over the past 10 or 15 years, the most successful are probably the UC San Diego and Iowa State programs and a couple of niche players (e.g., the Univ. of North Carolina-Charlotte program, with an exclusive, single-minded focus on Finance), while the others generally have not fared as well. The UC Riverside Program, for instance, has been in existence for more than ten years but thus far even does not have any placement information to show, despite its lofty mission and ambition as stated on its website.

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A recent posting included a passing comment on the placement of the PhD program at Wisconsin School of Business, and so we are prompted to expand on it. Overall, the program falls within Tier 2 in our Placement Rankings. Of the eight concentrations it offers, Accounting, Management, and Marketing perform the best. Such variance may be puzzling but is expected as the program ranks towards the bottom of the Tier 2 cohort -- remember, as a general rule, the lower ranking a program is, the more widely its concentrations vary placement-wise. In contrast, its MIS and OM tracks do not seem to be particularly strong. If you are applying for MIS with shining credentials, consider the University of Minnesota MIS program, which is known as a top 5 program in the US. On the other hand, if you are applying for OM, consider the Industrial Engineering Department of the University of Wisconsin, which is among the top ten in the U.S. A considerable proportion of OM faculty at busiess schools have PhDs obtained from industrial engineering departments not affiliated with business schools. This is especially true at top schools, such as Haas at Berkeley.

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The University of Colorado Boulder PhD Program performs particularly well in Accounting, Management, and OM. In comparison, the Finance area seems to have been going downhill in recent years. This is not surprising given its middle-ranking standing. Overall, it belongs to the Top 50 party and is generally very similar to such programs as those at the University of Iowa,  University of Houston, and the University of Utah.

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CCdreamer 发表于 2021-4-16 18:00
相信这个帖子，永远都会是这个论坛最好最多人看的帖子。
作为一个本硕都在北美，放弃了点东西，将要去一个T ...

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我觉得环境对人的影响其实蛮大的
Tier 3或以下也有很优秀的导师和PhD学生，只是由于这些program普遍比较小经费比较吃紧，导师和学生在各方面刚好匹配上的概率就比较低
于是很大部分这些档位的PhD学生就会开始抱怨环境，混吃等死，想着拿到个学位去很一般的teaching也不错，然后安慰自己，做人那么拼命搞research那么累干什么，教教书划划水，一辈子轻松度过。
Tier 2或以上PhD Programs经费充足，导师众多，研究领域广泛，各种方向都找得到导师辅导和同学合作，于是大家能感受到在research受到多方面的support，于是个个research兴趣高涨，大家都为同一个目标努力，互相鼓励。
所以，去Tier 3或以下的PhD学生想在research上有所建树，需要非常大的自我激励和与努力

我特别苦恼，很多人疯狂劝我，去teaching school有什么不好的，凭什么看不起teaching，去R1不一定比去teaching获得更好的生活质量。
显然，我并不是鄙视teaching或者说teaching不好，只是那不是我想要的。
我在乎的不是所谓的生活质量，而是在精神上我有没有问心无愧，有没有争取机会勇于拼搏尝试
被placed到一个不错的R1我才有可能在research上更进一步开发自己，跟更多优秀的人合作，见识更广阔的天地
等我七老八十拼不动了我并不介意机械重复地年复一年的教几门课，但是现在我还不情愿接受这个last choice
诚然，有可能在经过多年努力之后，我发现我的research水平就那样，最后失败了，就是去不了R1，或者在R1没有tenure成功，最后还是去teaching
但是，只有在尽自己最大努力之后，我才能失败得昂首挺胸，理直气壮。