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qwer3200

如果一群人都去做一样的事，结果可想而知，而且现在这社会是钓丝太多，国内各个大学质量差别太大，家庭背景不同，造成大家的expectation太不一样，成功永远只属于少数人

xht0812

呵呵

泾渭不凡

几十个海龟争一个职位，msf毕业回国大都是做商业银行或者财务。大家要对现实有个预期，没有工作经验很难有好的工作起点。

-- by 会员 Henrrick (2012/12/29 17:21:57)

Many years ago, I said something similar, and millions of people throw shit on me. So I would not say anything like this anymore, just let the kids go and head on the wall, they will understand it themselves. But not today.

-- by 会员 dcc617 (2012/12/29 17:49:46)

打算自己学学相关知识，今年过了一季度看好之后在盘面自己转转就可以了，近几年是真心不敢轻易去挤这个大牛聚集的圈了。

赚多的是有，工作几年的面对钻石底的还唱空的被裁的也不见少，熬到最后自己开“店面”的更是少之又少。

dcc617

几十个海龟争一个职位，msf毕业回国大都是做商业银行或者财务。大家要对现实有个预期，没有工作经验很难有好的工作起点。

-- by 会员 Henrrick (2012/12/29 17:21:57)

Many years ago, I said something similar, and millions of people throw shit on me. So I would not say anything like this anymore, just let the kids go and head on the wall, they will understand it themselves. But not today.

-- by 会员 dcc617 (2012/12/29 17:49:46)

我也是觉得金融这么难申请，其实也不一定有什么特别的收获，那大哥最后是去美国读了什么？最后还是到IB工作了？

-- by 会员 wqqcs2008 (2013/1/1 10:31:25)

I went to msa, transferred to ib 2 years later. Special case. Even though a lot of people say anything is possible and everyone has a chance, i always suggest people to look at the overall situation.

hangli2

几十个海龟争一个职位，msf毕业回国大都是做商业银行或者财务。大家要对现实有个预期，没有工作经验很难有好的工作起点。

-- by 会员 Henrrick (2012/12/29 17:21:57)

Many years ago, I said something similar, and millions of people throw shit on me. So I would not say anything like this anymore, just let the kids go and head on the wall, they will understand it themselves. But not today.

-- by 会员 dcc617 (2012/12/29 17:49:46)

我也是觉得金融这么难申请，其实也不一定有什么特别的收获，那大哥最后是去美国读了什么？最后还是到IB工作了？

-- by 会员 wqqcs2008 (2013/1/1 10:31:25)

I went to msa, transferred to ib 2 years later. Special case. Even though a lot of people say anything is possible and everyone has a chance, i always suggest people to look at the overall situation.

-- by 会员 dcc617 (2013/1/1 20:47:39)

This is apparently the overconfidence effect, like '93% of American drivers rate themselves as better than the median.'  

dcc617

几十个海龟争一个职位，msf毕业回国大都是做商业银行或者财务。大家要对现实有个预期，没有工作经验很难有好的工作起点。

-- by 会员 Henrrick (2012/12/29 17:21:57)

Many years ago, I said something similar, and millions of people throw shit on me. So I would not say anything like this anymore, just let the kids go and head on the wall, they will understand it themselves. But not today.

-- by 会员 dcc617 (2012/12/29 17:49:46)

我也是觉得金融这么难申请，其实也不一定有什么特别的收获，那大哥最后是去美国读了什么？最后还是到IB工作了？

-- by 会员 wqqcs2008 (2013/1/1 10:31:25)

I went to msa, transferred to ib 2 years later. Special case. Even though a lot of people say anything is possible and everyone has a chance, i always suggest people to look at the overall situation.

-- by 会员 dcc617 (2013/1/1 20:47:39)

This is apparently the overconfidence effect, like '93% of American drivers rate themselves as better than the median.'  

-- by 会员 hangli2 (2013/1/1 20:57:30)

Please look at what I said, not the other people's word. I am the one who said it is very hard for a MSF or MSA student to find a job in USA before graduation. And without your experience, your education could help you little.


However, I still recommend someone who is not from a top-tire school in China and receive a nice offer from USA. The school reputation could help you in the long run, and your experience to taste another culture could also be beneficial.

hangli2

几十个海龟争一个职位，msf毕业回国大都是做商业银行或者财务。大家要对现实有个预期，没有工作经验很难有好的工作起点。

-- by 会员 Henrrick (2012/12/29 17:21:57)

Many years ago, I said something similar, and millions of people throw shit on me. So I would not say anything like this anymore, just let the kids go and head on the wall, they will understand it themselves. But not today.

-- by 会员 dcc617 (2012/12/29 17:49:46)

我也是觉得金融这么难申请，其实也不一定有什么特别的收获，那大哥最后是去美国读了什么？最后还是到IB工作了？

-- by 会员 wqqcs2008 (2013/1/1 10:31:25)

I went to msa, transferred to ib 2 years later. Special case. Even though a lot of people say anything is possible and everyone has a chance, i always suggest people to look at the overall situation.

-- by 会员 dcc617 (2013/1/1 20:47:39)

This is apparently the overconfidence effect, like '93% of American drivers rate themselves as better than the median.'  

-- by 会员 hangli2 (2013/1/1 20:57:30)

Please look at what I said, not the other people's word. I am the one who said it is very hard for a MSF or MSA student to find a job in USA before graduation. And without your experience, your education could help you little.


However, I still recommend someone who is not from a top-tire school in China and receive a nice offer from USA. The school reputation could help you in the long run, and your experience to taste another culture could also be beneficial.

-- by 会员 dcc617 (2013/1/1 21:12:06)

I knew your point and I agree with u...

'ppl say anything is possible and everyone has a chance' == '93% of American drivers rate themselves as better than the median'. This is what I mean

dcc617

几十个海龟争一个职位，msf毕业回国大都是做商业银行或者财务。大家要对现实有个预期，没有工作经验很难有好的工作起点。

-- by 会员 Henrrick (2012/12/29 17:21:57)

Many years ago, I said something similar, and millions of people throw shit on me. So I would not say anything like this anymore, just let the kids go and head on the wall, they will understand it themselves. But not today.

-- by 会员 dcc617 (2012/12/29 17:49:46)

我也是觉得金融这么难申请，其实也不一定有什么特别的收获，那大哥最后是去美国读了什么？最后还是到IB工作了？

-- by 会员 wqqcs2008 (2013/1/1 10:31:25)

I went to msa, transferred to ib 2 years later. Special case. Even though a lot of people say anything is possible and everyone has a chance, i always suggest people to look at the overall situation.

-- by 会员 dcc617 (2013/1/1 20:47:39)

This is apparently the overconfidence effect, like '93% of American drivers rate themselves as better than the median.'  

-- by 会员 hangli2 (2013/1/1 20:57:30)

Please look at what I said, not the other people's word. I am the one who said it is very hard for a MSF or MSA student to find a job in USA before graduation. And without your experience, your education could help you little.


However, I still recommend someone who is not from a top-tire school in China and receive a nice offer from USA. The school reputation could help you in the long run, and your experience to taste another culture could also be beneficial.

-- by 会员 dcc617 (2013/1/1 21:12:06)

I knew your point and I agree with u...

'ppl say anything is possible and everyone has a chance' == '93% of American drivers rate themselves as better than the median'. This is what I mean

-- by 会员 hangli2 (2013/1/1 21:27:54)

Yeah, you are right. Sometimes people ask, is it possible to get into Goldman after my MSF in xxx (a 2nd or 3rd tier school). Some nice people would reply say everyone gets a chance. I do not quit like that answer. For a normal guy, I would just say no way.

aeoluseros

让一个人失败的往往并不是专业的选择，而是思虑太多，畏惧太多，可唯独做得却很少。
MSF的就业再不好，申请他本身不是错，错的是申请前不知为何申请他，申请后不知怎么最优化它。而一个“优化”两字又暗含了“思考”、“行动”两个交互过程。思考的是客观看待自身的偏好与能力，偏好为先，能力为后，行动的是为人所不为，为人所不敢为。
有的人有功利心，有的人生性淡泊，怎可仅以就业分高下，以结果论世事。
每一个人，走每一步，都不容易，都是认识自己和尝试改变自己的过程。绝对最终的是一个人的品性，而非一时的选择。选择了，就大胆去做，而对他人的选择，尊重与建议即可，毋须评判。

秋晨小仔

让一个人失败的往往并不是专业的选择，而是思虑太多，畏惧太多，可唯独做得却很少。
MSF的就业再不好，申请他本身不是错，错的是申请前不知为何申请他，申请后不知怎么最优化它。而一个“优化”两字又暗含了“思考”、“行动”两个交互过程。思考的是客观看待自身的偏好与能力，偏好为先，能力为后，行动的是为人所不为，为人所不敢为。
有的人有功利心，有的人生性淡泊，怎可仅以就业分高下，以结果论世事。
每一个人，走每一步，都不容易，都是认识自己和尝试改变自己的过程。绝对最终的是一个人的品性，而非一时的选择。选择了，就大胆去做，而对他人的选择，尊重与建议即可，毋须评判。

-- by 会员 aeoluseros (2013/1/1 22:10:49)

大神好久不见！抱大腿。。
神回复强烈要求转载到围脖