[讨论]八月八号厦门gmat学习小组成立了！

joywzy

谢谢grassgreen,我现在哪里谈得上精力充沛啊.

anyway,请教XDF的两个语法题:

XDF-21-16

16. New techniques in thermal-scanning photography, a
   process that records radiation from surface areas,
   makes it possible to study the effects of calefaction,
   or warming, of a river in greater detail than ever
   before.

   (A) makes it possible to study the effects of calefac-
       tion, or warming, of a river in greater detail
       than ever before
   (B) make it possible to study, in greater detail, the
       effects of calefaction, or warming, of a river
       than ever before
   (C) have made it possible to study in greater detail
       than ever before the effects of calefaction, or
       warming, of a river
   (D) make possible the study of the effects of calefac-
       tion, or warming, of a river in greater detail
       than it ever was before
   (E) has made it more possible than ever before to
       study in greater detail the effects of calefaction,
       or warming, of a river

答案:C,我选了B,考的是我的死穴,修饰.

XDF-20-9
9. Migraine, the most debilitating common form of
  headache, afflicts perhaps 18 million Americans, who
  collectively lose 64 million workdays a year, and
  they cost the nation $50 billion in medical expenses
  and lost work time.

  (A) year, and they cost the nation $50 billion in
      medical expenses and lost
  (B) year and thus cost the nation $50 billion in
      medical expenses and lost
  (C) year, so as to cost the nation $50 billion in
      medical expenses and lost
  (D) year that costs the nation $50 billion in lost
      medical expenses and
  (E) year, which thus cost the nation $50 billion in
      lost medical expenses and
Ans: B, I choose D

谢谢.

grassgreen

以下是引用joywzy在2003-7-22 16:52:00的发言：
谢谢grassgreen,我现在哪里谈得上精力充沛啊.

anyway,请教XDF的两个语法题:

XDF-21-16

16. New techniques in thermal-scanning photography, a
    process that records radiation from surface areas,
    makes it possible to study the effects of calefaction,
    or warming, of a river in greater detail than ever
    before.

    (A) makes it possible to study the effects of calefac-
        tion, or warming, of a river in greater detail
        than ever before
    (B) make it possible to study, in greater detail, the
        effects of calefaction, or warming, of a river
        than ever before
    (C) have made it possible to study in greater detail
        than ever before the effects of calefaction, or
        warming, of a river
    (D) make possible the study of the effects of calefac-
        tion, or warming, of a river in greater detail
        than it ever was before
    (E) has made it more possible than ever before to
        study in greater detail the effects of calefaction,
        or warming, of a river

答案:C,我选了B,考的是我的死穴,修饰.

To Joy,

这道题除了用修饰来判断， 来可以从语态上来判断，
这道题用现在完成时更准确， 因为后面有一个than ever before

XDF-20-9
9. Migraine, the most debilitating common form of
   headache, afflicts perhaps 18 million Americans, who
   collectively lose 64 million workdays a year, and
   they cost the nation $50 billion in medical expenses
   and lost work time.

   (A) year, and they cost the nation $50 billion in
       medical expenses and lost
   (B) year and thus cost the nation $50 billion in
       medical expenses and lost
   (C) year, so as to cost the nation $50 billion in
       medical expenses and lost
   (D) year that costs the nation $50 billion in lost
       medical expenses and
   (E) year, which thus cost the nation $50 billion in
       lost medical expenses and
Ans: B, I choose D

选项D 中， That从句限定修饰year, 肯定错。

B中逻辑关系准确： 主语（偏头痛）afflicts and costs(两个谓语).....
谢谢.

greenfish

"B中逻辑关系准确： 主语（偏头痛）afflicts and costs(两个谓语)....."
我也选B，但我觉得“cost the nation $50 billion in medical expenses and lost”的主语是Americans，不是偏头痛。

grassgreen

To Greenfish,

你说得对，我一时糊涂了， 主语应是Americans， 谓语是 lose 和 cost

BTW, 这道题在LZM的书上254页， Joy可看看里面具体的解释。

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joywzy

以下是引用grassgreen在2003-7-22 17:25:00的发言：


你说得对，我一时糊涂了， 主语应是Americans， 谓语是 lose 和 cost

[此贴子已经被作者于2003-7-22 17:26:05编辑过]

谢谢fish, grassgreen,我奇怪这题的cost 的发起人为什么是americans,应该是整个事件啊:collectively lose 64 million workdays  a year?

谢谢grassgreen的提醒,T1是有时态的区别,如果从修饰上考虑呢?有什么办法吗?

谢谢.

grassgreen

To Joywzy,

我也不知道说得对不对，权当参考吧：

have made it possible to study in greater detail
       than ever before the effects of calefaction, or
       warming, of a river

我一般是这样判断对动词的修饰的： 如上题中修饰动词
study的介词词组  in greater detail 应尽量与 study靠近。
也许这就是白勇所说的“修饰语就近修饰吧”。

另外，我还靠了一点语感，在杨鹏的难句中应有这样一类句子，
好象是倒装， 也就是把动词的宾语放在了介词词组的后面。
如果常读GMAT的文章，这种句子结构还是比较常见的。

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grassgreen

To Joywzy,

如果你实在想不通，就别再往“谁是主语”上去想了。

我们还有其它的解题方法：

XDF-20-9
9. Migraine, the most debilitating common form of
   headache, afflicts perhaps 18 million Americans, who
   collectively lose 64 million workdays a year, and
   they cost the nation $50 billion in medical expenses
   and lost work time.

   (A) year, and they cost the nation $50 billion in
       medical expenses and lost   （they 的前面有两个复数名词， 修饰不明确）
   (B) year and thus cost the nation $50 billion in
       medical expenses and lost
   (C) year, so as to cost the nation $50 billion in
       medical expenses and lost (so as to 一般的用法是系动结构，即前面应有个be 动词。另外so as to 表目的，不符题意)
   (D) year that costs the nation $50 billion in lost
       medical expenses and （限定修饰year不对）
   (E) year, which thus cost the nation $50 billion in
       lost medical expenses and (which修饰不明)
Ans: B, I choose D

选项D 中， That从句限定修饰year, 肯定错。

mike1999

以下是引用mike1999在2003-7-22 11:26:00的发言：
一道KAPLAN模考:
Researchers are studying plastics that dissolve at different rates, and they are finding that the so-called "quick disintegration" plastics are taking more time to deteriorate than (they originally seemed.)
B:they seemed originally
C:it seemed that they would originally
D:it originally seemed
E:it originally seemed they would.
答案是E.大家讨论一下.实在没有什么做题的头绪.

KAPLAN解释:
The tricky part here is choosing between "they" and "it". "they" would imply that the plastics themselves first seemed to do one thing, and then ended up doing something else. The example "it" --the pronoun that has no antecedent--makes more sense; it suggests simply that initial indications turned out to be misleading. Using "it", it's necessary to include the phrase "they would" to make itclear-- what seemed to be the case.

albert

以下是引用mike1999在2003-7-22 11:26:00的发言：
一道KAPLAN模考:
Researchers are studying plastics that dissolve at different rates, and they are finding that the so-called "quick disintegration" plastics are taking more time to deteriorate than (they originally seemed.)
B:they seemed originally
C:it seemed that they would originally
D:it originally seemed
E:it originally seemed they would.
答案是E.大家讨论一下.实在没有什么做题的头绪.

我觉得KPLAN出的语法题目很怪。。和ETS的不一样。
此题为证：

LZM GMAT老题目：
For many traverlers, charter vacations often turn out to cost considerably more than the ( they originally seemed)
B they originally seem to
c they seemingly would cost originally
D it seemed originally
E it originally seemded they would
LZM's answer: A       they originally seemed..

what the hell is that?? definitely the same type of question, different answer...
Furthermore, in kplan, even answer A is not a good answer, I think.
"they" is fault, because in the passage, there is another "they", which means researcher...

in answer E, what does "it" refers to??
the idomatic usage of "seem" is : it seems that... but E omit the "that"
OR sb seems to...., as A do...

So I prefere to choice A, because it is close to the answer of ETS..

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albert

以下是引用joywzy在2003-7-22 16:52:00的发言：
谢谢grassgreen,我现在哪里谈得上精力充沛啊.

anyway,请教XDF的两个语法题:

XDF-21-16

16. New techniques in thermal-scanning photography, a
    process that records radiation from surface areas,
    makes it possible to study the effects of calefaction,
    or warming, of a river in greater detail than ever
    before.

    (A) makes it possible to study the effects of calefac-
        tion, or warming, of a river in greater detail
        than ever before
    (B) make it possible to study, in greater detail, the
        effects of calefaction, or warming, of a river
        than ever before
    (C) have made it possible to study in greater detail
        than ever before the effects of calefaction, or
        warming, of a river
    (D) make possible the study of the effects of calefac-
        tion, or warming, of a river in greater detail
        than it ever was before
    (E) has made it more possible than ever before to
        study in greater detail the effects of calefaction,
        or warming, of a river

答案:C,我选了B,考的是我的死穴,修饰.

B的毛病：
主句有个than,表示比较,需要比较级。。可是in greater detail是作为插入语放入句子的。插入语是可以省略的，和主句的THAN不对应。