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wshyee

昨天好象是“SC黑色星期一”，我也做SC，30错7，居然第一题就错，郁闷~~~

特别是那道OG174，虽然能用主谓一致排除A，但不明白的是用the same as哪里不对了，和the same that有什么区别。刚才看了语法区的讨论，好象有几种讲法。

一说the same as可用the same that代替，特别是碰到year等词时；也有说这里不是the same as结构，只是that做定语从句修饰year；还有说the same as是指不同的事物，the same that指的是同一个事物。OG的解释也不太明白，晕了

大家来看看

题目如下：

A letter by Mark Twain, written in the same year as The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn were published, reveals that Twain provided financial assistance to one of the first Black students at Yale Law School.  

(A) A letter by Mark Twain, written in the same year as The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn were published,   

(B) A letter by Mark Twain, written in the same year of publication as The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn,

(C) A letter by Mark Twain, written in the same year that The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn was published,

(D) Mark Twain wrote a letter in the same year as he published The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn that

(E) Mark Twain wrote a letter in the same year of publication as The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn that

In this sentence, the relative pronoun that should introduce the clause The Adventures... published to make a relative clause modifying year. Also, the singular title of the novel demands a singular verb: for example, one would say, “The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn is (not “are”) a great book.” Only C, the best choice, satisfies both requirements. Choices A and D incorrectly substitute as for that to introduce the relative clause. Choice A also mistakes the novel title for a plural (were published). B confuses meaning (written in the same year of publication as). E creates a similar confusion of meaning, and both D and E are awkward and imprecise because that is too far away from its referent (letter) to be clear.

xiebinustc

以下是引用wshyee在2004-10-19 13:25:00的发言：

昨天好象是“SC黑色星期一”，我也做SC，30错7，居然第一题就错，郁闷~~~

特别是那道OG174，虽然能用主谓一致排除A，但不明白的是用the same as哪里不对了，和the same that有什么区别。刚才看了语法区的讨论，好象有几种讲法。

一说the same as可用the same that代替，特别是碰到year等词时；也有说这里不是the same as结构，只是that做定语从句修饰year；还有说the same as是指不同的事物，the same that指的是同一个事物。OG的解释也不太明白，晕了

大家来看看

题目如下：

A letter by Mark Twain, written in the same year as The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn were published, reveals that Twain provided financial assistance to one of the first Black students at Yale Law School.  

(A) A letter by Mark Twain, written in the same year as The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn were published,   

(B) A letter by Mark Twain, written in the same year of publication as The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn,

(C) A letter by Mark Twain, written in the same year that The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn was published,

(D) Mark Twain wrote a letter in the same year as he published The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn that

(E) Mark Twain wrote a letter in the same year of publication as The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn that

In this sentence, the relative pronoun that should introduce the clause The Adventures... published to make a relative clause modifying year. Also, the singular title of the novel demands a singular verb: for example, one would say, “The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn is (not “are”) a great book.” Only C, the best choice, satisfies both requirements. Choices A and D incorrectly substitute as for that to introduce the relative clause. Choice A also mistakes the novel title for a plural (were published). B confuses meaning (written in the same year of publication as). E creates a similar confusion of meaning, and both D and E are awkward and imprecise because that is too far away from its referent (letter) to be clear.

看了讨论认为tianwan的这个解释是合理的：

表示同一个用that，表示同样的但不是同一个用as。

没有看到权威语法书上用when。只是在张道真，温志达的《英语语法大全》上册P338找到一句话：

This is the same watch as I lost.(it is not mine)

比较：This is the same watch that I lost.(it is mine)，

这里只能用that引导从句，认为 the same as 和the same that 可以替换应该是lzm犯的又一错误。

sweetlychee

A friend went to America, who gave me CD address and encouraged me to have a try.

I passed ACCA examinations two years ago, retrospect the process, no more word but "hard"

I guess GMAT is the same.But just the name of your forum" chasing dream", I'll try my best when I'm so young.

Really very happy to meet all of you here.

Hang in there, we'll pass as soon as possible, if we exert.

Good luck everyone!

skidals

以下是引用xiebinustc在2004-10-19 10:48:00的发言：

不要推辞了，吉祥物MM，这里就你最小，选的头像又这么熊猫,你会

给大家带来好运气的!

那个头像好像就是熊猫吧

skidals

以下是引用wshyee在2004-10-19 13:18:00的发言：
真的吗？那就太好了，真希望给大家带来好运，也祝自己好运：）

下次偶见到你就叫你吉祥物mm了 ，哈哈

xiebinustc

以下是引用skidals在2004-10-19 19:38:00的发言：

那个头像好像就是熊猫吧

我这里是名词的形容词用法，没看出来？

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skidals

以下是引用xiebinustc在2004-10-19 19:53:00的发言：
我这里是名字的形容词用法，没看出来？

形容词用法？晕！

看来我要学习汉语语法了

satom

支持加油!!!!!!!!111

serenaluo

Update 一下我的进度。

都是在啃OG：SC第一遍结束，RC第一遍结束，刚开始数学，希望是两个星期后可以转向CR第一遍。现在只能有空去CR论坛看看别人讨论题目，找找感觉。（作文本来想隔个两三天练一篇，但是实在没精力了。）

11月底就要烤了，心底就只有一个“急”字。看牛人心经说，OG至少要四五遍才上的烤场。因此，半夜睡觉时会迷迷糊糊地想自己要不要推迟考试时间，要不要？

BTW，今天拿到了8月TOEFL成绩，610 。

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wshyee

以下是引用serenaluo在2004-10-19 22:19:00的发言：

Update 一下我的进度。

都是在啃OG：SC第一遍结束，RC第一遍结束，刚开始数学，希望是两个星期后可以转向CR第一遍。现在只能有空去CR论坛看看别人讨论题目，找找感觉。（作文本来想隔个两三天练一篇，但是实在没精力了。）

11月底就要烤了，心底就只有一个“急”字。看牛人心经说，OG至少要四五遍才上的烤场。因此，半夜睡觉时会迷迷糊糊地想自己要不要推迟考试时间，要不要？

BTW，今天拿到了8月TOEFL成绩，610 。

两周后已是十一月初了，才开始CR？好象是蛮紧的了！OG看两三遍总要的吧。

如果你不赶deadline的话，还是考虑延期吧，准备充分一点比较好。或者就请几个礼拜假全职复习冲刺一下，会好很多的。（我正为请不到假苦恼呢）

要不你先模考一下PP3看看，上面都是OG里的题，再决定是不是延期？

不管怎么样，不要灰心，加油！！！