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1001#
发表于 2012-3-16 09:32:12 | 只看该作者
我觉得Manhattan上面写的,Ron讲课说的,Payal说的,都是一致的:
to do 表示的是一种 direct intention
所以说,genetic evidence那道题不能用"to classify",而要用"for classifying"

但是,astronomers那道题,我个人觉得"to rate"和"for rating"都可以。
Ron也表示了这道题C没什么大错,就是"how likely"那里informal.
D的"likelihood" - perfect scholarly english!
1002#
发表于 2012-3-16 09:42:52 | 只看该作者
Pay attention to the word "often" that I highlight. "Often" does not necessarily mean "absolutely" (100%).
"A book to read"                              here a unmentioned subject (e.g. a person) reads the book
"A technique to alleviate pain"          here the technique itself is the subject for the verb "alleviate"

This is why I disagree with that NN.

对于to do说的很明确
Often, when you modify a noun with an infinitive, that noun is not the implied subject of
the infinitive
To do修饰动词,逻辑主语是to do所修饰动作的发出者
Evidences····provide support to do sth
逻辑主语变成了to do 修饰的provide这个动作的发出者
就是evidences classyfy ···所以不对呢

这个点昨天是越想越不通了,现在觉得自己的一些知识点都是很零碎的,没有系统归纳~~
-- by 会员 Suri在奋斗 (2012/3/16 9:26:50)


1003#
 楼主| 发表于 2012-3-16 09:44:46 | 只看该作者
我觉得Manhattan上面写的,Ron讲课说的,Payal说的,都是一致的:
to do 表示的是一种 direct intention
所以说,genetic evidence那道题不能用"to classify",而要用"for classifying"

但是,astronomers那道题,我个人觉得"to rate"和"for rating"都可以。
Ron也表示了这道题C没什么大错,就是"how likely"那里informal.
D的"likelihood" - perfect scholarly english!
-- by 会员 babybearmm (2012/3/16 9:32:12)

我现在就怕对GWD答案了
逻辑其实也有争议的题目,不想看了,语法也是让我很不知所措
总觉得以前建立的一些点在被打破
看baby姐姐的讲的做志愿的那道题,我也很有必要来整理下自己的逻辑了
时间不多了,昨天耗了一晚上在语法上~~╮(╯▽╰)╭
1004#
 楼主| 发表于 2012-3-16 10:12:00 | 只看该作者
打算今天做最后一套gwd就不做了
精力放在总结,jj,prep模考上
1005#
发表于 2012-3-16 11:10:30 | 只看该作者
。。记得我们学校滴微积分(下)。。全院2/3的莘莘学子挂掉,红灿灿的一片片。。。还好饭饭算是幸免者。。。。。
话说财政有必要掐分这么严么?。。。。。明明是简单类的科目啊。。要是运筹神马的还可以理解。。。老师真残忍。。。熊熊表难过。。。饭饭这里画圈圈。。。。
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脑残了。。。看错咯。。。是平时分50啊。。。。。。比重大了点吧。。。。。。。。。。
哎。。。也难怪呦。。。。学术性不强的学科。。。
-- by 会员 泾渭不凡 (2012/3/15 22:36:41)


说到财政,我们老师是出题老师,考前给我们圈了重点和几道大题,结果````他圈的全部是非重点~!!!
还不如不圈,误导复习呀,我可是把他说的题目就记得滚瓜烂熟了
不只是我,sigh~~~
-- by 会员 Suri在奋斗 (2012/3/15 22:59:08)

想到了我们的货币银行学老师。。。考的那个偏啊,划重点暴多,结果什么都没考到,还好我喜欢看偏的东西。。。
1006#
发表于 2012-3-16 11:16:52 | 只看该作者
Warning that computers in the United States
are not secure, the National Academy of Sciences has urged the nation to revamp computer security procedures, institute new emergency response teams, creating a special nongovernment organization to take charge of computer security planning.
(A)creating a special nongovernment organization to take

(B)creating a special nongovernment organization that takes

(C)creating a special nongovernment organization for taking

(D)and create a special nongovernment organization for taking

(E)and create a special nongovernment organization to take

大家看看OG上的这题, take的逻辑主语可以是NAS,也可以是organization,不好区分诶。而且和之前那题好像,严重怀疑是按照这题的模板改装而成的。
1007#
 楼主| 发表于 2012-3-16 11:41:55 | 只看该作者
Warning that computers in the United States
are not secure, the National Academy of Sciences has urged the nation to revamp computer security procedures, institute new emergency response teams, creating a special nongovernment organization to take charge of computer security planning.
(A)creating a special nongovernment organization to take

(B)creating a special nongovernment organization that takes

(C)creating a special nongovernment organization for taking

(D)and create a special nongovernment organization for taking

(E)and create a special nongovernment organization to take

大家看看OG上的这题, take的逻辑主语可以是NAS,也可以是organization,不好区分诶。而且和之前那题好像,严重怀疑是按照这题的模板改装而成的。
-- by 会员 yiayia (2012/3/16 11:16:52)

我昨天就看到这个哈,是og 11的题目,昨天做的,前天做的,我真的感觉让自己混乱了,
我以前就觉得to do比for doing好,自从support和昨天那个后我就
不知道怎么具体去操作判断 了
1008#
发表于 2012-3-16 12:14:27 | 只看该作者
Good find!

This sentence is also present here, and I think we can still apply our knowledge that " 'to do' expresses direct intention" to solve this problem.

For your question, what is the logical subject of "to take charge of computer security planning"? That is a good question.

(a) It could be NAS. As OG points out, "In the construction create … to take, the sense of to is in order to"
So according to OG, NAS has urged the nation to create a organization in order to take ....

(b) It could also be the "organization". Here we consider "to take charge of computer security planning" as a noun modifier that modifies the preceding noun "organization".
A technique to alleviate pain
An organization to take charge of computer security planning
Same deal!

So the key point here is the potential ambiguity of the infinitive: is it an adverbial modifier (in a) or a noun modifier (in b)?

Wait, does this question really matter? I doubt....
For example, if I say
"I create a mindset to conquer GMAT."  The mindset is, for example, the inside-out approach.
Does that mean "I intend to conquer GMAT, with the help of this mindset" or "I create a mindset, and this mindset is intended to conquer GMAT"?
I think this distinction actually does NOT matter. It's just like asking whether I conquer GMAT or my brain conquer GMAT....

Same deal here, I think it does not matter if NAS takes charge or the organization takes charge.
All we know is that NAS has intention to take charge, either directly or indirectly (by "indirectly" I mean "through the created organization")

Just my two cents. Open to discussion.

另:我觉得suri的思路对的,也许那个nn把你搞混了,忽略他的说法看看是否清楚些。

Warning that computers in the United States
are not secure, the National Academy of Sciences has urged the nation to revamp computer security procedures, institute new emergency response teams, creating a special nongovernment organization to take charge of computer security planning.
(A)creating a special nongovernment organization to take

(B)creating a special nongovernment organization that takes

(C)creating a special nongovernment organization for taking

(D)and create a special nongovernment organization for taking

(E)and create a special nongovernment organization to take

大家看看OG上的这题, take的逻辑主语可以是NAS,也可以是organization,不好区分诶。而且和之前那题好像,严重怀疑是按照这题的模板改装而成的。
-- by 会员 yiayia (2012/3/16 11:16:52)





1009#
发表于 2012-3-16 12:14:55 | 只看该作者
刚才本来想在原文上修改,补充一个链接,结果居然重新发文了..

This sentence also appears here, and I think we can still apply our knowledge that " 'to do' expresses direct intention" to solve this problem.
http://www.beatthegmat.com/to-do-vs-for-doing-help-pls-t27493.html
1010#
发表于 2012-3-16 12:24:36 | 只看该作者
刚发现yiayia提的这个问题,take charge的主语还有可能是nation.....
这下我不清楚了,难道真有ambiguity?
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