晕~两道题干一样问法不同的题，换个角度问就晕了

小混球

111。Personnel officer:  The exorbitant cost of our health-insurance benefits reflects the high dollar amount of medical expenses incurred by our employees.  Employees who are out of shape, as a group, have higher doctor bills and longer hospital stays than do their colleagues who are fit.  Therefore, since we must reduce our health-insurance costs, we should offer a rigorous fitness program of jogging and weight lifting to all employees, and require employees who are out of shape to participate.  
Which of the following, if true, provides the most support for the personnel officer's proposal?
A. The medical expenses incurred by fit people who participate in a program of jogging and weight lifting are less than those incurred by fit people who do not participate in such a program.
B. More otherwise fit people are injured by participating in rigorous jogging and weight-lifting programs than are injured by participating in moderate jogging and weight-lifting programs.
C. The likelihood of incurring medical expenses is slightly greater for people who participate in fitness programs offered by their employers than it is for people who participate in programs offered commercially.
D. Moderate fitness programs increase the average person's fitness to the same extent that rigorous fitness programs do.
E. More health problems and injuries are the result of mandatory participation in a fitness program than are the result of voluntary participation.
122。题干同上，问题是The conclusion reached by the personnel officer depends on which of the following assumptions?
A. A person who is fit would receive a routine physical checkup by a doctor less regularly than would a person who is out of shape.
B. The medical expenses incurred by employees who are required to participate in the fitness program would be less than those incurred by employees who are not required to participate.
C. The strenuous activities required of out-of-shape employees by the program would not by themselves generate medical expenses greater than any reduction achieved by the program.
D. The fitness program would serve more employees who are out of shape than it would employees who are fit.
E. The employees who participate in the fitness program would be away from work because of illness less than would the employees who do not participate.
第一题选A,我认为是让fit people参加锻炼使他们的medical expenses减少，而people out-of shape也可能变fit
问题来了，第二题B选为什么错呢（正选是C）?和require out-of shape people to participate the exercises有关吗？
等待大牛解答

夏初April

第一道题中，就当这个公司有两种人，一种是out of shape的，一种是fit的。而公司推出这个计划是lifting to all employees。而out of shape 的人参加后就会变健康，少看医生。而那些fit的人参加后也会比没参加之前看医生的花费要少。这正是A所提到的。
第二道题，我觉得C是说这个计划省下来的医药费会比这个计划所要话的钱多，言外之意就是这个计划是值得的。
不知道想的对不对，期待NN。

夏初April

怎么没人呀。。。顶一下~

蜗涡Joey

来锻炼一下自己~这道题出地很好耶！
LZ看到第二题assumption的时候要记得：如果对某个选项取否时原文立马就错了，那这个选项就是assumption，也就是必要条件。
比较B,C
B. The medical expenses incurred by employees who are required to participate in the fitness program would be less than those incurred by employees who are not required to participate.
参加fitness 的人产生（incurred勉强翻译成这样吧~）的医药费比不参加fitness的人产生的医药费要少。
C. The strenuous activities required of out-of-shape employees by the program would not by themselves generate medical expenses greater than any reduction achieved by the program.
这个program本身可能带来的医药费（可能是运动伤-拉伤扭伤什么的）不会多于这个program所achieve的reduction

B取否后是not less than；C取否后是great than
B还有余地就是等于（因为不少于是等于或者多于），那原文也还是可行的；但是C取否后原文就这个被weakened了。
应该是这样吧~~~

小混球

来锻炼一下自己~这道题出地很好耶！
LZ看到第二题assumption的时候要记得：如果对某个选项取否时原文立马就错了，那这个选项就是assumption，也就是必要条件。
比较B,C
B. The medical expenses incurred by employees who are required to participate in the fitness program would be less than those incurred by employees who are not required to participate.
参加fitness 的人产生（incurred勉强翻译成这样吧~）的医药费比不参加fitness的人产生的医药费要少。
C. The strenuous activities required of out-of-shape employees by the program would not by themselves generate medical expenses greater than any reduction achieved by the program.
这个program本身可能带来的医药费（可能是运动伤-拉伤扭伤什么的）不会多于这个program所achieve的reduction

B取否后是not less than；C取否后是great than
B还有余地就是等于（因为不少于是等于或者多于），那原文也还是可行的；但是C取否后原文就这个被weakened了。
应该是这样吧~~~

-- by 会员 蜗涡Joey (2011/11/9 20:53:40)

恩，我当时想的就是B取反后是“参加活动的人的medical expenses比不参加的人的大于或等于”，这样的话活动就没有意义了，所以他削弱了reduce the expenses的目的。以下是我在网上搜的解释觉得有点道理The aim of the argument is :to bring down the medical expenses incurred by employees who are out of shape.(as they incure high amount)
We are not concerned with those employees who are "inshape"
B is comparing costs incured by employees who are required to participate to who are not required to participate.
Argument is not tryin to do that..

而且我觉得文章比较的是计划前后medical expenses的变化（因为目的就是to reduce the expenses），和不是参加计划本身人的花费的比较。
不知道这么解释说不说的通，欢迎讨论！

小混球

第一道题中，就当这个公司有两种人，一种是out of shape的，一种是fit的。而公司推出这个计划是lifting to all employees。而out of shape 的人参加后就会变健康，少看医生。而那些fit的人参加后也会比没参加之前看医生的花费要少。这正是A所提到的。
第二道题，我觉得C是说这个计划省下来的医药费会比这个计划所要话的钱多，言外之意就是这个计划是值得的。
不知道想的对不对，期待NN。

-- by 会员 夏初April (2011/11/4 16:28:48)

同意你的第一题解释，第二题我觉得可能是设置计划所带来的花费不会超过计划可能引起的花费的减少，也就是说这个计划不会使公司的expenses再增加的。如果取反就可以削弱原题。

teddybearj4

来锻炼一下自己~这道题出地很好耶！
LZ看到第二题assumption的时候要记得：如果对某个选项取否时原文立马就错了，那这个选项就是assumption，也就是必要条件。
比较B,C
B. The medical expenses incurred by employees who are required to participate in the fitness program would be less than those incurred by employees who are not required to participate.
参加fitness 的人产生（incurred勉强翻译成这样吧~）的医药费比不参加fitness的人产生的医药费要少。
C. The strenuous activities required of out-of-shape employees by the program would not by themselves generate medical expenses greater than any reduction achieved by the program.
这个program本身可能带来的医药费（可能是运动伤-拉伤扭伤什么的）不会多于这个program所achieve的reduction

B取否后是not less than；C取否后是great than
B还有余地就是等于（因为不少于是等于或者多于），那原文也还是可行的；但是C取否后原文就这个被weakened了。
应该是这样吧~~~

-- by 会员 蜗涡Joey (2011/11/9 20:53:40)

恩，我当时想的就是B取反后是“参加活动的人的medical expenses比不参加的人的大于或等于”，这样的话活动就没有意义了，所以他削弱了reduce the expenses的目的。以下是我在网上搜的解释觉得有点道理The aim of the argument is :to bring down the medical expenses incurred by employees who are out of shape.(as they incure high amount)
We are not concerned with those employees who are "inshape"
B is comparing costs incured by employees who are required to participate to who are not required to participate.
Argument is not tryin to do that..

而且我觉得文章比较的是计划前后medical expenses的变化（因为目的就是to reduce the expenses），和不是参加计划本身人的花费的比较。
不知道这么解释说不说的通，欢迎讨论！

-- by 会员 小混球 (2011/11/10 11:24:36)

同意小混球对B选项的翻译。

锁定argument的最后一句，“we should offer a rigorous fitness program of jogging and weight lifting to all employees, and require employees who are out of shape to participate”，B的意思应该是“被要求参加的program的人（也就是out of shape的人）带来的expenses比不被要求的参加的人（即正常shape的人）要高”，这个是argument信息的重复（Employees who are out of shape, as a group, have higher doctor bills and longer hospital stays than do their colleagues who are fit）。

所以B不是assumption。且取非之后，是直接否定argument的facts，并不是weaken作用。

晓野的野

忽然受到了一点启发，与新的疑惑
关于122那个assumption题，我是这样理解的。
assumption就是一定要成立，后面的才可能成立。
如果assumption不成立，原文就一定不成立。

B 即使不成立，not less than，总的药物费用同相等的啊（话说原文又说了since we must reduce our health-insurance costs看起来费用相等似乎也不行啊）
C 如果不成立，就lager than 了（但是话又说回来，C中提到的是体型走形的人，不知道那些没走形的人省没有省钱，怎么比较啊？我们比较的应该是最后总的省的钱啊）

求解答！

晓野的野

忽然受到了一点启发，与新的疑惑
关于122那个assumption题，我是这样理解的。
assumption就是一定要成立，后面的才可能成立。
如果assumption不成立，原文就一定不成立。

B 即使不成立，not less than，总的药物费用同相等的啊（话说原文又说了since we must reduce our health-insurance costs看起来费用相等似乎也不行啊）
C 如果不成立，就lager than 了（但是话又说回来，C中提到的是体型走形的人，不知道那些没走形的人省没有省钱，怎么比较啊？我们比较的应该是最后总的省的钱啊）

求解答！

-- by 会员 晓野的野 (2013/3/17 0:07:59)

自己忽然又有了灵感。
B选项中employees who are required to participate in the fitness program的人事实上指的就是体型走形了的人，原文：Employees who are out of shape, as a group, have higher doctor bills and longer hospital stays than do their colleagues who are fit.  B 的意思与原文相悖。
不知可不可以这样理解。

晓野的野

晓野的野 发表于 2013-3-17 00:18
忽然受到了一点启发，与新的疑惑关于122那个assumption题，我是这样理解的。assumption就是一定要成立， ...

几天做到这个题目还是不明白
搜答案的时候居然发现原来自己以前就是不明白，嘿嘿
C说 那些身体走形的人被要求的高强运动不会产生比参加了这个program所减少的费用多
就是新产生的费用不会高于减少的费用
不高于也可以等于啊
如果减少的等于增加的
那么怎么省钱啊

但是如果单纯按照取非削弱这个思路，取非之后
增加的钱大于减少的钱，确实削弱了
待我再去研究下 哈哈