~~~Marketing PhD选校求定位~~~

kndx5

帖子太多了，就不逐一回复了，说一下我的看法。

first, lz does not have any chance in chicago.

second, lz can try kellogg, as kellogg is at most top 10 in modeling and not comparable with chicago, although chance is still slim. what is good for lz, kellogg interveiws even more than 10 modeling students every year and most of them will have better offers, what is bad for lz, yuxin chen went there, and I guess he will at least get involved in recruiting chinese students, this makes lz, who did not graduate from top school, less likely to be considered.

third, in terms of the publication, school like chicago does not care publications in journals lz were talking about.

zzmypster

弱问lz这个profile的硬伤在哪里？就是本科和MBA学校一般？

dian58dian

挺不错的，top10-20的多申请几家吧，感觉比大多数申请MKT的人条件都要好---当然，chicago, kellogg之流的竞争本身就更加激烈。在我眼里，唯一不确定的是你推荐信的分量，因为如你所说的学校很小的话，不清楚那里Faculty Research的ranking 如何，有没有隐藏牛人；当然， 我是指和其他top candidate相比较，MBA期间能发两篇文章毕竟是非常独树一帜的，别管是几类的杂志，能拿出时间尝试并且做出结果的本身就是种态度和信号。不努力尝试怎么知道自己行不行呢。加油，等LZ的好消息！----don't let others tell you what you can't do!

zjq407

还有推荐信可能不是什么牛人写的

弱问lz这个profile的硬伤在哪里？就是本科和MBA学校一般？

-- by 会员 zzmypster (2011/10/22 12:11:48)

benxu

Nice words, but irrelevant.


1. LZ does not come here seeking confidence; he is seeking advices.
2. No one denies his impressive publication record, given his education level. But admission is a function of competition ranking, not merely a judgement of excellence.


Applying Chicago would be a waste of $65. Top 10-20 is also a high risk (although he does have a slim shot). But I would be happy to be proven wrong next year.

挺不错的，top10-20的多申请几家吧，感觉比大多数申请MKT的人条件都要好---当然，chicago, kellogg之流的竞争本身就更加激烈。在我眼里，唯一不确定的是你推荐信的分量，因为如你所说的学校很小的话，不清楚那里Faculty Research的ranking 如何，有没有隐藏牛人；当然， 我是指和其他top candidate相比较，MBA期间能发两篇文章毕竟是非常独树一帜的，别管是几类的杂志，能拿出时间尝试并且做出结果的本身就是种态度和信号。不努力尝试怎么知道自己行不行呢。加油，等LZ的好消息！----don't let others tell you what you can't do!

-- by 会员 dian58dian (2011/10/22 12:46:55)

Allen_LeeIS

可以多申请点没有中国老师的program

dian58dian

I understand that you give him advice as a rational person, but people's decision making process is not complete rational in the first place, a phenomenon that has been proved in many experiments already. Is a Ph.D candidate reviewing process totally rational? We don't know, since neither of us is a committee member of those top business schools, right? It just don't make sense to me when other people take those committee's perspectives and reject the candidate on a forum. It is just ridiculous. Maybe I watched too many movies, but I believe that people deserve hopes and dreams.


My advice for this outstanding candidate is to "try"! Try as many top business schools as he can.....and please don't even mention the bloody waste of $65. Let me ask you this: if you were on a date with a girl and have no idea whether she would be your girlfriend, would you pay the dinner and get her flowers, something that could also be viewed as waste if she hook up with somebody else at the end of day. My point: if you never try your best, you would never know how great you can be. No pain, no gain.


I think that we are just taking different perspectives at this point, and it is hardly to say whose suggestion is better. If I were this guy, I would apply to all of those 10-20 schools anyway.

zhipei

真心感谢你的鼓励！
不得不说，这几天都不敢来了，我认认真真看了每个回帖，都很中肯。就我自己也很了解自己的弱点，就是你所说的非名校出身，相关联的就是没有牛推，这也是重伤。所以也就是为啥我对申请top 10没信心~~~
综合考虑了你们的建议，我还是大撒网吧，为了申上不错的学校，别心疼钱就是了。
另外，你觉得 UF 有多大把握？

I understand that you give him advice as a rational person, but people's decision making process is not complete rational in the first place, a phenomenon that has been proved in many experiments already. Is a Ph.D candidate reviewing process totally rational? We don't know, since neither of us is a committee member of those top business schools, right? It just don't make sense to me when other people take those committee's perspectives and reject the candidate on a forum. It is just ridiculous. Maybe I watched too many movies, but I believe that people deserve hopes and dreams.


My advice for this outstanding candidate is to "try"! Try as many top business schools as he can.....and please don't even mention the bloody waste of $65. Let me ask you this: if you were on a date with a girl and have no idea whether she would be your girlfriend, would you pay the dinner and get her flowers, something that could also be viewed as waste if she hook up with somebody else at the end of day. My point: if you never try your best, you would never know how great you can be. No pain, no gain.


I think that we are just taking different perspectives at this point, and it is hardly to say whose suggestion is better. If I were this guy, I would apply to all of those 10-20 schools anyway.

-- by 会员 dian58dian (2011/10/24 2:26:49)

martinwang83

I think you should definitely try UF, Steve and Jinhong, both are really good to work with.

Plus, Steve is really nice.

If I were you, I will not try Chicago.

Good luck!

grossman

try cmu. good placement. kellogg is overrated