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求问:prep187,(more than 后面啥事要补出主谓)跪求NN解答。。。

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61#
发表于 2012-5-2 19:28:16 | 只看该作者
12-89是不可以省的,#16楼那时候粗心了…我修正一下…
OG85依然是上面的解释,另外,OG85和12-89不同,其比较点不在于flurished,而在于time。
62#
发表于 2012-5-2 19:49:42 | 只看该作者
12-89是不可以省的,#16楼那时候粗心了…我修正一下…
OG85依然是上面的解释,另外,OG85和12-89不同,其比较点不在于flurished,而在于time。
-- by 会员 aeoluseros (2012/5/2 19:28:16)

嗯,85确实说的是时间,
嗯,89我需要再考虑考虑。
谢谢斑竹!!
63#
发表于 2012-5-2 20:15:17 | 只看该作者
12-89是不可以省的,#16楼那时候粗心了…我修正一下…
OG85依然是上面的解释,另外,OG85和12-89不同,其比较点不在于flurished,而在于time。
-- by 会员 aeoluseros (2012/5/2 19:28:16)


嗯,85确实说的是时间,
嗯,89我需要再考虑考虑。我找到了以前讨论过的斑竹的例子, 如果按89: x cost as much as y do (另一问,如果x和y分别是单数,那末是不是写成x costs as much as y does ?), 上面绿色部分就该是 wild animals have less fat than livestock do.

谢谢斑竹!!

According to recent studies comparing the nutritional value of meat from wild animals and meat from domesticated animals, wild animals have less total fat than (that of) livestock fed on grain and more of a kind of fat thought to be good for cardiac health. 这个句子不对。其在livestock前加上that of…比较的对象是animals has less fat和that,that指代fat,而事实上比较的应该是wild animals和livestock的属性,即拥有fat的多少(注意不是比较fat的属性),所以than后面也应该用平行的句式,即主谓宾形式,不过在此省略了相同的谓语和宾语(因为不会有wild animals have livestock的歧义,只要逻辑上基本成立,GMAT并不认为所有没有补出谓语动词的形式都是”ambiguities”的)。
-- by 会员 mongmong (2012/5/2 19:49:42)
64#
发表于 2012-5-3 17:17:12 | 只看该作者
oh nice
65#
发表于 2012-5-4 22:12:07 | 只看该作者
12-89是不可以省的,#16楼那时候粗心了…我修正一下…
OG85依然是上面的解释,另外,OG85和12-89不同,其比较点不在于flurished,而在于time。
-- by 会员 aeoluseros (2012/5/2 19:28:16)



嗯,85确实说的是时间,
嗯,89我需要再考虑考虑。我找到了以前讨论过的斑竹的例子, 如果按89: x cost as much as y do (另一问,如果x和y分别是单数,那末是不是写成x costs as much as y does ?), 上面绿色部分就该是 wild animals have less fat than livestock do.

谢谢斑竹!!

According to recent studies comparing the nutritional value of meat from wild animals and meat from domesticated animals, wild animals have less total fat than (that of) livestock fed on grain and more of a kind of fat thought to be good for cardiac health. 这个句子不对。其在livestock前加上that of…比较的对象是animals has less fat和that,that指代fat,而事实上比较的应该是wild animals和livestock的属性,即拥有fat的多少(注意不是比较fat的属性),所以than后面也应该用平行的句式,即主谓宾形式,不过在此省略了相同的谓语和宾语(因为不会有wild animals have livestock的歧义,只要逻辑上基本成立,GMAT并不认为所有没有补出谓语动词的形式都是”ambiguities”的)。
-- by 会员 mongmong (2012/5/2 19:49:42)

-- by 会员 mongmong (2012/5/2 20:15:17)


并不是的,其实有一个比较简便的方法来判断是否是谓语的比较:比较级的词在修饰谁。
这个wild animal句子里面less修饰的是fat,而且是wild animal的fat。
而12-89里面twice修饰的是cost. French wines taste better than Australian wines里面better修饰的是taste.
66#
发表于 2012-5-5 09:44:05 | 只看该作者
12-89是不可以省的,#16楼那时候粗心了…我修正一下…
OG85依然是上面的解释,另外,OG85和12-89不同,其比较点不在于flurished,而在于time。
-- by 会员 aeoluseros (2012/5/2 19:28:16)


嗯,85确实说的是时间,
嗯,89我需要再考虑考虑。我找到了以前讨论过的斑竹的例子, 如果按89: x cost as much as y do (另一问,如果x和y分别是单数,那末是不是写成x costs as much as y does ?), 下面绿色部分就该是 wild animals have less fat than livestock do.

谢谢斑竹!!

According to recent studies comparing the nutritional value of meat from wild animals and meat from domesticated animals, wild animals have less total fat than (that of) livestock fed on grain and more of a kind of fat thought to be good for cardiac health. 这个句子不对。其在livestock前加上that of…比较的对象是animals has less fat和that,that指代fat,而事实上比较的应该是wild animals和livestock的属性,即拥有fat的多少(注意不是比较fat的属性),所以than后面也应该用平行的句式,即主谓宾形式,不过在此省略了相同的谓语和宾语(因为不会有wild animals have livestock的歧义,只要逻辑上基本成立,GMAT并不认为所有没有补出谓语动词的形式都是”ambiguities”的)。
-- by 会员 mongmong (2012/5/2 19:49:42)

并不是的,其实有一个比较简便的方法来判断是否是谓语的比较:比较级的词在修饰谁
而12-89里面twice修饰的是cost. French wines taste better than Australian wines里面better修饰的是taste.
-- by 会员 aeoluseros (2012/5/4 22:12:07)


还真是的!这里是整个句子的比较,以后我会注意看比较级和谓语的关系。多写斑竹指点~~

这个wild animal句子里面less修饰的是fat,而且是wild animal的fat。

-- by 会员 aeoluseros (2012/5/4 22:12:07)



嗯,我又慢慢想了想这个问题,翻了翻前面的例子,还有些困惑。这个wild animal的例子,比较的是拥有fat 的多少,正确的句子并不是wild animals have less total fat than (that of) livestock fed on grain and more of a kind of fat thought to be good for cardiac health.而是wild animals have less total fat than (that of) livestock fed on grain (do) and more of a kind of fat thought to be good for cardiac health.

再比如下面这个例子(前面帖子斑竹特供的),对E的解释说明“than wheat does“是另一种使句子正确的方式,即把这里的比较看成has的比较,是整局的比较,而非局部的比较(即使E里的higher不是修饰整个句子的。嗯?莫非这里即是斑竹讲的局部可看成整体比较,反之则不然?)

OG10-19. In addition to having more protein than wheat does, the protein in rice is higher quality than that in wheat, with more of the amino acids essential to the human diet.
(A) the protein in rice is higher quality than that in
(B) rice has protein of higher quality than that in
(C) the protein in rice is higher in quality than it is in
(D) rice protein is higher in quality than it is in
(E) rice has a protein higher in quality than

B also uses that to refer to protein in making the comparison between the proteins of rice and wheat. Choice E needs either that in or does after wheat to make a complete and logical comparison.
67#
发表于 2012-5-8 22:20:48 | 只看该作者
12-89是不可以省的,#16楼那时候粗心了…我修正一下…
OG85依然是上面的解释,另外,OG85和12-89不同,其比较点不在于flurished,而在于time。
-- by 会员 aeoluseros (2012/5/2 19:28:16)





嗯,85确实说的是时间,
嗯,89我需要再考虑考虑。我找到了以前讨论过的斑竹的例子, 如果按89: x cost as much as y do (另一问,如果x和y分别是单数,那末是不是写成x costs as much as y does ?), 下面绿色部分就该是 wild animals have less fat than livestock do.

谢谢斑竹!!

According to recent studies comparing the nutritional value of meat from wild animals and meat from domesticated animals, wild animals have less total fat than (that of) livestock fed on grain and more of a kind of fat thought to be good for cardiac health. 这个句子不对。其在livestock前加上that of…比较的对象是animals has less fat和that,that指代fat,而事实上比较的应该是wild animals和livestock的属性,即拥有fat的多少(注意不是比较fat的属性),所以than后面也应该用平行的句式,即主谓宾形式,不过在此省略了相同的谓语和宾语(因为不会有wild animals have livestock的歧义,只要逻辑上基本成立,GMAT并不认为所有没有补出谓语动词的形式都是”ambiguities”的)。
-- by 会员 mongmong (2012/5/2 19:49:42)




并不是的,其实有一个比较简便的方法来判断是否是谓语的比较:比较级的词在修饰谁
而12-89里面twice修饰的是cost. French wines taste better than Australian wines里面better修饰的是taste.
-- by 会员 aeoluseros (2012/5/4 22:12:07)





还真是的!这里是整个句子的比较,以后我会注意看比较级和谓语的关系。多写斑竹指点~~

这个wild animal句子里面less修饰的是fat,而且是wild animal的fat。

-- by 会员 aeoluseros (2012/5/4 22:12:07)






嗯,我又慢慢想了想这个问题,翻了翻前面的例子,还有些困惑。这个wild animal的例子,比较的是拥有fat 的多少,正确的句子并不是wild animals have less total fat than (that of) livestock fed on grain and more of a kind of fat thought to be good for cardiac health.而是wild animals have less total fat than (that of) livestock fed on grain (do) and more of a kind of fat thought to be good for cardiac health.

再比如下面这个例子(前面帖子斑竹特供的),对E的解释说明“than wheat does“是另一种使句子正确的方式,即把这里的比较看成has的比较,是整局的比较,而非局部的比较(即使E里的higher不是修饰整个句子的。嗯?莫非这里即是斑竹讲的局部可看成整体比较,反之则不然?)

OG10-19. In addition to having more protein than wheat does, the protein in rice is higher quality than that in wheat, with more of the amino acids essential to the human diet.
(A) the protein in rice is higher quality than that in
(B) rice has protein of higher quality than that in
(C) the protein in rice is higher in quality than it is in
(D) rice protein is higher in quality than it is in
(E) rice has a protein higher in quality than

B also uses that to refer to protein in making the comparison between the proteins of rice and wheat. Choice E needs either that in or does after wheat to make a complete and logical comparison.
-- by 会员 mongmong (2012/5/5 9:44:05)




umm...let me re-think this point.
68#
发表于 2012-5-10 20:19:02 | 只看该作者
是不是可以这么理解:than后面的时间状语如果是介词短语就不会产生歧义,所以可以直接放在than后面,比如楼主举的例子: in any previous election. 但是如果than后面的时间状语是now,或者five years ago,即非介词短语,那么就不能够直接放在than的后面,因为有歧义。
不知道能不能这么简单地找规律,求NN解答!
69#
发表于 2012-5-13 20:24:37 | 只看该作者
Only seven people this century have been killed by the great white shark, the man-eater of the movies—fewer than …中, 不仅仅Only seven people,后面的this century have been killed by the great white shark也都在比较对象里面,所以后文不能用those killed by bee stings,而应该用平行的结构than have been killed
mongmong又有问题鸟!

下面这个题我的判断是局部比较,正确答案D可以改写成 at speeds much higher than those (that are) currently possible than those currently possible. 局部比较可以看作整体比较,我想问正确选项D是一个整体比较的写法?还是和绿色部分其实并无差异?(quote部分是前面aeo特供的例子,这个例子,因为是整体比较,than have been killed就不能改写成如绿色部分)

According to analysts, an alliance between three major personal computer companies and most of the nation’s largest local telephone companies would enable customers to receive internet data over regular telephone lines with speeds much higher than is currently possible.

A.with speeds much higher than is
B.with speeds that are much higher than are
C.at much higher speeds as are
D.at much higher speeds than that
E.at speeds much higher than are


好像有点钻牛角了,只是觉得看到E这样的选项,如果脑子里没有自觉把它转化出来名词+定从,我题就做不出来。
70#
发表于 2012-5-13 23:26:26 | 只看该作者
OG12-13
“the economy might not be as weak as some analysts previously thought"

OG12-13里:不是,as sb. thought/said是一个固定结构。虽然是比较的形式,但是可以排除在比较之外理解这个考点。
-- by 会员 aeoluseros (2012/5/2 16:52:37)


Prep
"human ancestors systematically hunted big game much earlier than believed"

这里的省略补全后是 much earlier than they are believed (to?) ? 还是什么?
请问这个句子里的比较和上面的固定结构类似吗?还是这个句子是整体比较来的?如果是固定结构,是不是就不用补全?
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