求问：prep187，（more than 后面啥事要补出主谓）跪求NN解答。。。

aeoluseros

再加一条哦，至少我还这么久都没有见到过反例，mongmong可以再验证下：
局部概念比较可以视作整体概念比较，比如楼上的85题。
而整体概念比较不能视作局部概念比较。

对，第二个例子和第一个例子一样。

瓜瓜不瓜

斑竹解释的太帅了

mongmong

再加一条哦，至少我还这么久都没有见到过反例，mongmong可以再验证下：
局部概念比较可以视作整体概念比较，比如楼上的85题。
而整体概念比较不能视作局部概念比较。

对，第二个例子和第一个例子一样。

-- by 会员 aeoluseros (2011/5/28 0:18:01)

谢谢aeo! 第二个问题明白了，但是呀呀，第一个问题好像答的不是我问的呀，还是说和“被动”没有关系？麻烦你再给看看：


1）整句概念在比较的例子：Only seven people this century have been killed by the great white shark, the man-eater of the movies—fewer than have been killed by bee stings.  
2）85. According to a study by the Carnegie Foundation for the Advancement of Teaching, companies in the United States are providing job training and general education for nearly eight million people, about equivalent to the enrollment of the nation's four-year colleges and universities.
(A) equivalent to the enrollment of
(B) the equivalent of those enrolled in
(C) equal to those who are enrolled in
(D) as many as the enrollment of (E)
(E) as many as are enrolled in

两个例子都涉及数字的比较，而85题是局部概念在比较。请问两个例子的区别和第一个例子是被动态有关系吗？因为被动，导致数字的部分（only seven people） 和后面比较的部分不紧紧挨着？所以造成无法局部比较，只能整句概念比较？另外，虽然第一个例子是整句概念比较，85题不是，但“than have been killed by bee stings”和"as many as are enrolled"形式是一样一样的，这样不奇怪吗？

mongmong

在顶一下哈

mongmong

再顶一下哈

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关于比较，mark~~

aeoluseros

再加一条哦，至少我还这么久都没有见到过反例，mongmong可以再验证下：
局部概念比较可以视作整体概念比较，比如楼上的85题。
而整体概念比较不能视作局部概念比较。

对，第二个例子和第一个例子一样。

-- by 会员 aeoluseros (2011/5/28 0:18:01)

谢谢aeo! 第二个问题明白了，但是呀呀，第一个问题好像答的不是我问的呀，还是说和“被动”没有关系？麻烦你再给看看：


1）整句概念在比较的例子：Only seven people this century have been killed by the great white shark, the man-eater of the movies—fewer than have been killed by bee stings.
2）85. According to a study by the Carnegie Foundation for the Advancement of Teaching, companies in the United States are providing job training and general education for nearly eight million people, about equivalent to the enrollment of the nation's four-year colleges and universities.
(A) equivalent to the enrollment of
(B) the equivalent of those enrolled in
(C) equal to those who are enrolled in
(D) as many as the enrollment of (E)
(E) as many as are enrolled in

两个例子都涉及数字的比较，而85题是局部概念在比较。请问两个例子的区别和第一个例子是被动态有关系吗？因为被动，导致数字的部分（only seven people） 和后面比较的部分不紧紧挨着？所以造成无法局部比较，只能整句概念比较？另外，虽然第一个例子是整句概念比较，85题不是，但“than have been killed by bee stings”和"as many as are enrolled"形式是一样一样的，这样不奇怪吗？

-- by 会员 mongmong (2011/5/28 13:55:25)

我想不是被动语态的原因。
我说的“局部概念的比较可以看作整句概念的比较”形式上是指前面虽然只是一个词，但是后面可以用一个句子和那个词比。
85题其实算是整句概念的比较。
但是要注意，整句概念的比较不能看作局部概念的比较。

mongmong

再加一条哦，至少我还这么久都没有见到过反例，mongmong可以再验证下：
局部概念比较可以视作整体概念比较，比如楼上的85题。
而整体概念比较不能视作局部概念比较。

对，第二个例子和第一个例子一样。

-- by 会员 aeoluseros (2011/5/28 0:18:01)

谢谢aeo! 第二个问题明白了，但是呀呀，第一个问题好像答的不是我问的呀，还是说和“被动”没有关系？麻烦你再给看看：


1）整句概念在比较的例子：Only seven people this century have been killed by the great white shark, the man-eater of the movies—fewer than have been killed by bee stings.
2）85. According to a study by the Carnegie Foundation for the Advancement of Teaching, companies in the United States are providing job training and general education for nearly eight million people, about equivalent to the enrollment of the nation's four-year colleges and universities.
(A) equivalent to the enrollment of
(B) the equivalent of those enrolled in
(C) equal to those who are enrolled in
(D) as many as the enrollment of (E)
(E) as many as are enrolled in

两个例子都涉及数字的比较，而85题是局部概念在比较。请问两个例子的区别和第一个例子是被动态有关系吗？因为被动，导致数字的部分（only seven people） 和后面比较的部分不紧紧挨着？所以造成无法局部比较，只能整句概念比较？另外，虽然第一个例子是整句概念比较，85题不是，但“than have been killed by bee stings”和"as many as are enrolled"形式是一样一样的，这样不奇怪吗？

-- by 会员 mongmong (2011/5/28 13:55:25)

我想不是被动语态的原因。
我说的“局部概念的比较可以看作整句概念的比较”形式上是指前面虽然只是一个词，但是后面可以用一个句子和那个词比。
85题其实算是整句概念的比较。
但是要注意，整句概念的比较不能看作局部概念的比较。

-- by 会员 aeoluseros (2011/6/8 17:58:05)

再确认一下哈，你说的局部概念的比较是不是帖子开始的时候举的那个rice 和wheat含 protein多少的比较（即选项B）？所以Choice E needs either that in or does after wheat to make a complete and logical comparison.就是你说的“局部概念的比较可以看作整句概念的比较”形式上是指前面虽然只是一个词，但是后面可以用一个句子和那个词比”？哎呀，上面这个问题前面你好像已经提到了，已经回答过了。


那么如果上面的85题我把它看作局部概念的比较，不写成as many as are enrolled in 的话，后面应该是怎么写？（85是可以看作局部概念也可以看成整体概念的比较的是吗？只不过答案E给的是整体概念的比较，对吗？）
是之前我问讨论过的下面的1和3都可以是吗？这样就是局部概念的比较了，因为改写之后as many as 后面没有谓语？
那么E可以改写成以下哪种？
1. as many as people who are enrolled in
2. as many as who are enrolled in
3. as many as people enrolled in
第一种和第三种，其实第三种是第一种的省略，enrolled是过去分词嘛，great question。
其实蹊跷的地方是为何Only seven people this century have been killed by the great white shark, the man-eater of the movies—fewer than have been killed by bee stings.就是整体概念的比较，而不是only seven people 和后面某一个数量的比较？
好像只能整体概念比较好少，为啥咧？



版主你人真好，每次都认真回答问题。谢谢你！