Booz, ATK, RB, Deloitte Consulting和Monitor的比较 - 分享一些经验，并寻求帮助

cherrypeng2010

想问一下在中国RB,ATK, Monitor这些公司和IBM，Accenture, Capgemini这些公司管理咨询部门有什么主要区别，这些偏IT的咨询公司，在中国的管理咨询项目也不少

-- by 会员 xiayu514 (2011/2/2 14:26:22)

我也想了解下
请楼主说说
谢拉

-- by 会员 梁朝伟 (2011/2/4 17:36:38)

回答你这个问题，我直接转个帖子好了。如果还有其他疑问，再讨论好了。里面的排名可能会有争议，但是它分类的方法和介绍，应该可以给大家一些感觉。

原网址：http://firmsconsulting.com/2010/09/26/ranking-mckinsey-bain-bcg-accenture-deloitte-capgemini/
注：这个网站里面有很多consulting相关的内容，还不错，建议可以看一下。

原帖内容：

Ranking McKinsey, Bain, BCG, Accenture, Deloitte, Capgemini…                In Firm Review, Guides, Lillilooloo.com, Management Consulting on September 26, 2010 at 11:24 am                                                    

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As everyone knows, it’s not so easy to simply rank all the firms. To do this well, I have to split out the firms into different groups and the type of work they do. One needs to try to make a like for like comparison.  
1 – Strategy and Operations firms use the MECE type approach to advise on strategy and operations. McKinsey does a lot of operations consulting. Therefore, do not confuse operations consulting with implementation. Operations’ consulting is about understanding how to manage an operation to extract value. Therefore a similar data intensive process is used, yet different problems are solved.

2 – Implementation is taking the strategy and operations recommendations and embedding it in a company. This is usually tough work where the firm needs to work with the client to entrench the advice and bank the business case.

3 – Then there is technology consulting. For technology strategy, McKinsey/Bain/BCG will still be called up. For Technology implementation Accenture will lead the pack.  
The last thing you want to do is avoid taking a snapshot. You want to look for the broad trends. So, a firm like Monitor may be at a level below Mckinsey/Bain/BCG. Roland Berger is also at this level. However, given the quality of the work, hiring decisions, management decisions and client roster, Roland Berger is on an upward trend and Monitor is going down.  
The last important factor to consider is whether the firm is one partnership or a federation of independent practices. Single partnership firms like McKinsey/Bain/BCG are tightly controlled at the core. Quality control, hiring, performance management and other practices are standardized. Single partnership firms are always the top consulting firms. Federations like Deloitte pose a problem. For example, if the Greek partners are independent and unwilling to hire the best people, invest in training and build a proper consulting team, there is nothing Deloitte central can do. Each partnership is legally separated. These firms are never the top performers.

Related to this, the federated consulting firms will have pockets of excellence, areas of very bad quality and this creates an average average.  
With that in mind, this is my list:

Top Strategy Advisors:
1.       McKinsey
2.       Bain
3.       BCG  

Rising Strategy Advisors:
1.       Roland Berger
2.       Booz
3.       Marakon  

Fading Strategy Advisors
1.       LEK
2.       Monitor
3.       Oliver Wyman
4.       Deloitte Consulting


Top Operations Advisors:
1.       McKinsey
2.       Bain
3.       AT Kearney


Top Implementation Firms
1.       AT Kearney
2.       Deloitte
3.       PWC
4.       E&Y
5.       KPMG
6.       Accenture
7.       IBM  

Fading Implementation Firms
1.       Cap Gemini  

Top Technology and Systems Implementation Firms
1.       Accenture
2.       IBM
3.       Deloitte
4.       Cap Gemini

bigjoe

这个帖子不错 我顶一下~

CharieBrown

Deloitte Entry Level的pay貌似和ACN还有IBM差不多，只比audit多一点吧

JohnSun

DC 的pay相比起来是比较寒蝉的, at all lvls (incl Partner)

rebeccablote

强烈顶。看过文章之后，终于知道为什么MIT的MBA大都去了McKinsey. All about quantitative skills.

HedgeNews

挖个坟，好帖。

秋天的树

lz分析的还是很到位的。恩 DC在国内的起步确实较晚，所以为了快速的发展国内业务，从美国transfer过来了很多华人（HK Singapore Malaysia....）与consultant mgr 和 senior mgr 吃过饭，感觉人都很nice也很professional，而且由于在国内正处于快速发展期，进去的话，一方面能学到很多东西，另一方面也可以赶上公司的快速发展。

zomRay

一直以为ATK 应该不是和Booz, Moniter一个级别的，看的出来LZ对其评价蛮不错了

utsclisa

helpful~~~~many thx~~~~~~~~

balgirl

顶啊~希望还有童鞋能对这个帖子持续更新，造福后面找consulting的兄弟姐妹们~