请问：有英国的硕士学位还需要考TOEFL吗？

goodspeed

如题，

本人刚上班的第一年被派到英国学习，获得硕士学位，是不是就不用考T了？只需要考GMAT？我查了一些学校的要求是这样的。不过，不考T的话是不是在评审的时候会比别人少一些竞争力呢？

慕容楠生

肯定要考。有的学校可以用鸭丝代替但是大多数不可以。

君不见美国的硕士都在考么

goodspeed

ls的朋友，谢谢啊，不过我看到columbia和wharton的网站都有这样的文字：

http://www.wharton.upenn.edu/mba/admissions/apply/preparing.cfm

TOEFL: A complete command of the English language, including proficiency in reading, writing, and speaking is essential for success in Wharton's MBA program. All international applicants for the MBA Program whose native language (language first learned and spoken at home) is not English, or who did not complete a degree from an institution where English was the language of instruction, are required to take the TOEFL in addition to the GMAT.

http://www4.gsb.columbia.edu/mba/learnmore/requirements

International students whose native language is not English must take the Test of English as a Foreign Language (TOEFL). You may be exempted from the TOEFL if you have received a degree from an institution whose official language of instruction is English.

大家分析一下

慕容楠生

Maybe

不过我知道哈佛用109这条线来卡资格。Wharton后半句写的who did not complete a degree from an institution where English was the language of instruction, are required to take the TOEFL in addition to the GMAT. 没有在英语课程院校机构完成学位的人需要TOEFL，但是没有说完成了的海外学生就不需要TOEFL。

慕容楠生

All international applicants for the MBA Program whose native language (language first learned and spoken at home) is not English, or who did not complete a degree from an institution where English was the language of instruction, are required to take the TOEFL in addition to the GMAT.

另外这一句话的严格逻辑关系是：

如果谁的母语不是英语或者没有完成英语教学课程，那么他需要TOEFL。换句话说，只要占一条，就得TOEFL。

就是说理解为，所有的非英语母语者和没在英语课程里拿到学位的英语母语者需要TOEFL

goodspeed

可我的硕士学位是在英国的大学得到的，符合an institution where English was the language of instruction。

慕容楠生

You may be exempted from the TOEFL if you have received a degree from an institution whose official language of instruction is English.

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may be exempted from不等于 have no need to

换句话说这句话的潜在台词是，如果你不想用TOEFL来证明你比普通申请人的英语应用能力更出色，那么可以用你的英语教学学位来证明你英语水平合格。

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打个比方吧，在去年以前，凡是经过1年清华国际班课程并且英语达到80分的，就可以交换免T了，但是今年又重新拟了规定要求Tsinghua的交换生T一般要求100+，西北大学要105才准交换。道理是类似的，就是有时候可以豁免，但有绝对比没有好。

goodspeed

谢谢楼上的兄弟

慕容楠生

Wharton那个逻辑关系，所有的非英语母语者和没在英语课程里拿到学位的英语母语者需要TOEFL

换句话说，这个逻辑关系成了，不但是英语母语者并且拿到英语教学学位才可以豁免TOEFL。

你不是英语母语者。

慕容楠生

总的来说，不考T，你还剩1/4的TOP15可以选择，还有1/2的TOP16以后的学校可以选择。

看你自己觉得值得不值得了。