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281#
发表于 2008-4-16 16:14:00 | 只看该作者

xy姐姐,我来请教您语法题目了

 

大全692. The attorney turned down the law firm’s offer of a position because she suspected that it was meant merely to fill an affirmative action quota with no commitment to minority hiring and eventually promoting.
(A) quota with no commitment to minority hiring and eventually promoting
(B) quota, having no commitment to minority hiring and eventually promoting
(C) quota and did not reflect a commitment to minority hiring and eventual promotion
(D) quota, not reflecting a commitment to minority hiring and eventual promotion
(E) quota, not one that reflected that minority hiring and  eventual promotion was a commitment

 

Xyjj,这道题目答案是D,如果A错了,我认为是WITH 逻辑修饰错了,可能做定语修饰QUOTA,也可能做状语修饰fill,你说我的理解对吗?但是d,它是用分词的形式,如果要修饰quta应该是which 引导,我不明白这里的not reflecting时表示结果呢?还是伴随?

大全663section03-08Some of the tenth-century stave churches of Norway are still standing, demonstrating that with sound design and maintenance, wooden buildings can last indefinitely.

(A) standing, demonstrating that with sound design and maintenance, wooden buildings can last indefinitely

(B) standing, demonstrating how wooden buildings, when they have sound design and maintenance, can last indefinitely

(C) standing; they demonstrate if a wooden building has sound design and maintenance it can last indefinitely

(D) standing, and they demonstrate wooden buildings can last indefinitely when there is sound design and maintenanceA

(E) standing, and they demonstrate how a wooden building can last indefinitely when it has sound design and maintenance

Xyjj,这道题的b不选是因为它的结构改变了句子的合理意思嘛,
            when
引导的句子在这里可以表示插入,所以可以取掉。是因为这吗?

 

大权413(补充66. In the mid-1920’s the Hawthorne Works of the Western Electric Company was the scene of an intensive series of experiments that would investigate changes in working conditions as to their effects on workers’ performance.
(A) that would investigate changes in working conditions as to their effects on workers’ performance
(B) investigating the effects that changes in working conditions would have on workers’ performance
(C) for investigating what are the effects in workers’ performance that changes in working conditions would cause
(D) that investigated changes in working conditions’ effects on workers’ performance
(E) to investigate what the effects changes in working conditions would have on workers’ performan

Xyjj,这道题目,我想弄清楚a错,是因为their effects的指代不清楚吗?their 可能是指代condition 或者使changes 吗?

最后的最后,姐姐我现在分析逻辑,脑子里面都是主要的事物和事件,因为。。。所以。。。或者十几个核心元素的联系,然后去看选项,发现一道题目选乡的有关武官是那么明显,然后圈处有关或者无关,看解释,解释说的和我全的一样,总算对有关武官有认识了。而lawyer哥哥所说的具体性也就是一个具体的逻辑推理连。我会继续努力的

 

 

 

282#
发表于 2008-4-16 21:43:00 | 只看该作者

携隐大大,小弟准备背GMAT的单词,发现众牛都推荐先背TOEFL词频,再背TOEFL的词汇书,最后再看GMAT的词频或词汇。

T词汇书外面很多,但是T词频书很少很少,mumuwa推荐的“《TOEFL词汇考试频率统计及中文译解》(陈东编)”已经买不到了……(小弟在上海)

所以想请教有什么推荐的TOEFL词频书?还有XDF的很多词汇书哪本比较好?

非常感谢!!!

283#
发表于 2008-4-17 01:40:00 | 只看该作者
以下是引用qtgemini在2008-4-16 8:09:00的发言:

XYJJ and lawyer GG, I have one CR question and hope you guys can help me out. 

Bank depositors in the United States are all financially protected against bank failure because the government insures all individuals' bank deposits. An economist argues that this insurance is partly responsible for the high rate of bank failures, since it removes from depositors any financial incentive to find out whether the bank that holds their money is secure against failure. If depositors were more selective, then banks would need to be secure in order to compete for depositors' money.

 

The economist's argument makes which of the following assumptions?

(A) Bank failures are caused when big borrowers default on loan repayments.

(B) A significant proportion of depositors maintain accounts at several different banks.

(C) The more a depositor has to deposit, the more careful he or she tends to be in selecting a bank.

(D) The difference in the interest rates paid to depositors by different banks is not a significant

factor in bank failures.

(E) Potential depositors are able to determine which banks are secure against failure.

The answer is E. and I picked D.

My thoughts:  Economist's argument is that insurance is responsible for the high rate of bank failures.  I think I read it in one of lawyer's post that one way to solve assumption problem is to eliminate other causes, aka, excluding the case that other factor causes the problem.  so in this case, I picked D,  the difference in interest rate is not a significant factor in bank failures.  Can you clarify this? 

Thanks in advance!

1.注意结论是个充分必要型结论(IF..THEN).假设有两类. 一是没有其它因素割断IF到THEN的推理.二是IF一定能推出THEN(补充IF..THEN推理中的缺陷).

2.这个结论的逻辑是: 如果depositors需要去选择SECURE的银行(IF),银行就必须SECURE(THEN).这个推理的缺陷是:depositors需要去选,不见得有这个能力,因为只有depositors有能力判断哪个银行SECURE,银行才会努力去作的SECURE,(THEN)的情况才会出现.所以E补了这个缺陷.

3.D比较易混.但D不能排除割断IF到THEN的推理的因素.实际上D根本无关.在IF和THEN的推理上根本没有.

4.IF..THEN结论型比较特殊, 一定任何假设的答案要在IF到THEN的推理链上.

5.其实,你讲D取非,结论从IF到THEN一样可以成立,足可证明D不是假设.

284#
发表于 2008-4-17 08:28:00 | 只看该作者

Thanks so much, lawyer!  Your explanation is very clear and straight to the point. I guess my way of thinking is not up to the level that I can see through the question and go straight to the point yet.  Definitely need more training.  Thanks for answering the question so promptly while you are busy.  Also need to thank yaoyao for the clarification too. =P

285#
发表于 2008-4-17 08:42:00 | 只看该作者

又来麻烦了...

PREP2-17

At present the Hollywood Restaurant has only standard-height tables.  However, many customers come to watch the celebrities who frequent the Hollywood, and they would prefer tall tables with stools because such seating would afford a better view of the celebrities.  Moreover, diners seated on stools typically do not stay as long as diners seated at standard-height tables.  Therefore, if the Hollywood replaced some of its seating with high tables and stools, its profits would increase.

The argument is vulnerable to criticism on the grounds that it gives reason to believe that it is likely that

(A) some celebrities come to the Hollywood to be seen, and so might choose to sit at the tall tables if they were available

(B) the price of meals ordered by celebrities dining at the Hollywood compensates for the longer time, if any, they spend lingering over their meals

(C) a customer of the Hollywood who would choose to sit at a tall table would be an exception to the generalization about lingering

(D) a restaurant's customers who spend less time at their meals typically order less expensive meals than those who remain at their meals longer

(E) with enough tall tables to accommodate all the Hollywood's customers interested in such seating, there would be no view except of other tall tables

我在C(正确答案)和E之间选了E,不知道我是意思理解错了还是没把握好

原文说,客人觉得tall tables可以提供更好的视野且,坐tall table的人比做standard table的人留在坐位上的时间更长,所以多设置tall tables可以提高营业收入;事后看C,觉得它说得也挺有道理的,因为它就是针对那些坐tall table的人说明的一种情况;可是E后半句让我产生混淆,我觉得既然影响到了other tall tables,那这个other tall tables应该也是在这个restraunt里的,这样不是也影响了profit吗?

好像思考方向哪里又出了点问题...麻烦点拨..还有4天就考了...谢谢。。。


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286#
发表于 2008-4-17 10:24:00 | 只看该作者
以下是引用ambrosecelin在2008-4-17 8:42:00的发言:

又来麻烦了...

PREP2-17

At present the Hollywood Restaurant has only standard-height tables.  However, many customers come to watch the celebrities who frequent the Hollywood, and they would prefer tall tables with stools because such seating would afford a better view of the celebrities.  Moreover, diners seated on stools typically do not stay as long as diners seated at standard-height tables.  Therefore, if the Hollywood replaced some of its seating with high tables and stools, its profits would increase.

The argument is vulnerable to criticism on the grounds that it gives reason to believe that it is likely that

(A) some celebrities come to the Hollywood to be seen, and so might choose to sit at the tall tables if they were available

(B) the price of meals ordered by celebrities dining at the Hollywood compensates for the longer time, if any, they spend lingering over their meals

(C) a customer of the Hollywood who would choose to sit at a tall table would be an exception to the generalization about lingering

(D) a restaurant's customers who spend less time at their meals typically order less expensive meals than those who remain at their meals longer

(E) with enough tall tables to accommodate all the Hollywood's customers interested in such seating, there would be no view except of other tall tables

我在C(正确答案)和E之间选了E,不知道我是意思理解错了还是没把握好

原文说,客人觉得tall tables可以提供更好的视野且,坐tall table的人比做standard table的人留在坐位上的时间更长,所以多设置tall tables可以提高营业收入;事后看C,觉得它说得也挺有道理的,因为它就是针对那些坐tall table的人说明的一种情况;可是E后半句让我产生混淆,我觉得既然影响到了other tall tables,那这个other tall tables应该也是在这个restraunt里的,这样不是也影响了profit吗?

好像思考方向哪里又出了点问题...麻烦点拨..还有4天就考了...谢谢。。。


我也很困惑此题, D项为啥不对呢?

坐stools and tall tables的客户逗留的时间比坐在standard-height table的客户时间短,

将some of standard-height table 换成stools and tall table, 餐厅的利润将上升.

那么

(D) a restaurant's customers who spend less time at their meals typically order less expensive meals than those who remain at their meals longer.  逗留时间短的客户比逗留时间长的客户花费少, 不是正好weaken其结论: 餐厅的利润将上升吗?

诚恳请教

287#
发表于 2008-4-17 13:11:00 | 只看该作者
288#
 楼主| 发表于 2008-4-17 14:50:00 | 只看该作者
以下是引用道无痕在2008-4-16 11:27:00的发言:

携隐,我来了,

再详细的说一下自己的问题

第一次考680的时候,所有科目用OG11,XY13,边做边做笔记总结一遍,

第二次考650的时候,把OG10SC又做了一遍,笔记总结了一遍,然后RC,RC,SC的大全和SCprep解析版也做了一遍,都是边做边总结

到现在第三遍的时候,我在想还是做题与做总结的时间相互抢的太紧,这次我就少做题了多看题总结而且对于OG,prep打算多看几遍,每天30题;然后我发现以前同时看SC,RC,CR的时间比较少,大部分的复习都是单科单用,所以这次打算大部分的时间是每天主看一科,也会花1-2小时看另外两科;另外我还想上两次均在考前只模考过一次,其实我很容易受影响的,所以以前不敢模考太多,怕影响考前的心态,结果第一次考试时pace非常好,verbal做完剩下一分钟,但是第二次考verbal特别担心超时,一路猛做,竟然做到40题的时候还剩20分钟,pace大乱,我的pace太不稳定了而且到了考场没有太多时间想解题方法而是凭直觉的反应,所以现在三战决定还是要多模考一下,每个周末就用prep模考一次

现在就是有点担心这样的改善会不会有效果(这样问好像有点怪)

然后就是关于RC,对于细节题有什么好的方法可以对付,这方面的题我总是做的不太好。

谢谢

首先关于总体复习计划,你对自己的分析都是对的。你第一次和第二次用的材料都不一样(虽然有部分重复,但是OG10和OG11的解释又是不一样的),而且每次每种材料只看了一遍,当然考不好。书不在多,贵在精。熟读唐诗三百首,比把三千首诗读一遍的效果要好很多。考G也是一个道理。所以第三次,我建议你就固定的材料,反复分析总结,加以一定的新题做练习培养手感。OG10和11你只要选其中一个就可以了,因为两者的解释不一样,说的却是同一个道理,所以坚持看同一个有助于你培养对解释的熟悉度,从而增加语感。OG是需要反复反复看,一直到考试前都不要放松的,要看的仔细,有时间的话最好把所有OG的讨论贴都翻出来看看,看看大家的疑惑,寻找自己没有想到的盲点,看看牛牛们是怎么对OG的解释做出进一步的阐述,或者解释中的语法点都从何而来,等等。这样对培养正确的感觉很有用。

你说的几个部分很少在一起复习,也是导致考试失败很大的原因。我自己有这个体验,每次分开复习,回到别的板块,就会发现自己的正确率低了很多,综合起来更是差。应对方法就是不要偏科。如果你有足够的时间,我建议你复习分成两个阶段,第一阶段可以按照你自己说的,每天大部分精力放在某个板块上,强攻,其他部分稍微兼顾一下。这个阶段要好好做分析总结。结束这个阶段之后,进入第二阶段,每天一定要均衡的做题,SC几个单元,逻辑几个单元,阅读几个单元,等等,一定要尽量符合考试时候的分布,一定要非常均衡。数学和作文可以在后期加入进来。只有这样你才能培养出考试的感觉,也会发现三个部分之间其实并不是毫无关联,而是紧密联系在一起,彼此很相似,甚至可以相互促进的。

说到你的pace,模考当然有帮助,但是我觉得这样还远远不够。培养pace要从平时做起。第一,平时做题就应该养成计时的习惯,做完回头分析的时候,要结合自己做的时间来分析,看看是过快还是过慢。根据考试题目的分布和自己的水平,语法,逻辑和阅读每题分别能用多少时间,自己要做一个简单的计算,然后根据平时的做题分析情况做调整,例如,本来分配给逻辑的是每题2分钟,语法每题2分钟,现在发现语法每题平均1分半就可以,而逻辑2分钟的话错误率很高,那就调整为逻辑每题2分半,语法每题1分半,平时就根据这个目标就要求自己和检测正确率。做练习要一个单元一个单元的计时做,pace平时就要练。第二,模考除了每个星期外,考试前一段时间要强化模考,我那时侯是每天一套GWD,就放在我考试的同样时间段,按照考试时间要求做完,然后再回头好好分析。做完这一步再去做别的资料。这样对考试维持稳定的pace也很有帮助。

其次,关于阅读细节题,其实阅读更重要的是骨架,骨架出来了,细节自然记得住。我有一篇咖啡因的例子,和前面几页的一篇短文章的例子,你可以看一下。尤其是咖啡因,分析的很仔细了,你可以看到,文章的架构一出来,信息其实也就那么少,没什么细节不细节的。你按照抓文章架构和出题点的方法好好分析每篇文章,分析多了,就会慢慢体会到这些了。
289#
 楼主| 发表于 2008-4-17 15:23:00 | 只看该作者
Shirley,很高兴你的逻辑有进步了。关于你问的语法题:

大全692,我搜了两个讨论贴,都说答案是C,不是D。你再确认一下。关于为什么不是A,以下帖子里有解释:


看完之后,要了解with到底怎么用,到底是做定语还是做状语,可以查字典with,也可以查权威的语法书,相信会有详细的解释。

大全663,B改变了原文的意思。A说的是一个结论,B说的却是在什么条件下,如何达到结果的一个过程。是两回事。

大全413,请参考讨论贴:


MM,CD的最珍贵之处,就在于这些经年累月积累下来的讨论贴,这里头不但有历届大牛的心血,也有很多不同角度的疑惑,从而可以更加细致,更加深入的去理解题目。你应该培养起多搜索讨论贴的习惯,好好利用这些资源,这样你的复习会更有效率。讨论贴没有回答的内容,你可以跟贴发问,如果没有人回答,你可以发连接在小教室里,我们几个都会去看去回答。这样你有疑问的题目,就会更加快速的得到回应,也能够吸取更多方面的信息。

我们一直致力于倡导大家去看讨论贴,多搜索,不是说我们不愿意回答问题。说实话,写这些东西的时间,完全可以答题了。但是授人予鱼,不如授人予渔。正确的学习方法才是你们最需要的。就拿搜索来说,一旦你养成了搜索的习惯,那么,每天你做的那么多题目,有任何疑问,都能够系统的得到解答,而不是东一个西一个的来问我们,知道了这个题目却不一定知道下一个题目怎么答,是不是?我以前复习的时候,是专门有一个file登记我的提问的,我先每题都查讨论贴,看大家怎么说,往往有新的收获。还有疑惑的地方就跟贴提问,把链接记下来,一旦一个问题得到了解答,就将问题从file上面划掉。这样的习惯对找到自己的弱点,补充细小的但是重要的知识点很有帮助。当我做完了字典,google,语法书,发贴提问这一系列动作之后,往往我自己就知道了答案,而且印象深刻。如果还疑惑,我也会要求牛牛来解答,但是这种时候,对于他们的解答,我的理解就非常深刻,因为我下过功夫好好想过。建议MM也养成这种习惯,基础打好了,正确率就会大幅度提升,而且稳定下来。

当然,如果题目是为了说明自己复习过程中碰到的思维困境,或为了说明自己解题的一贯思路,等等,欢迎直接在这里提问,疑难杂症也欢迎讨论。但是关于常见的知识点的运用,自己找到的答案往往比别人直接告诉你的记忆更深刻哦。
290#
发表于 2008-4-17 15:28:00 | 只看该作者

XY好,刚刚经历了三战(580-590-610),非常郁闷,考完第三战成绩出来前,我的感觉非常好,认为上700没有问题,结果610让我非常失望,GMAT就像一道坎,让我难以逾越。其实我的目标也不高,700就好,我不明白这100多分到底差在哪里,我究竟跌在哪里,我想在我开始第四战之前好好听听你的建议。因为已经决定要走MBA这条路,所以我是会好好准备四战的。

我的背景:大学毕业9年,六级:优秀,目前接触英语的机会不多,自认为词汇量还行

三战前做的准备工作:

1.  SC

OG10过了4遍,大全都做完,考点基本都清楚,考前做过自己的总结,都碰到难题都看过语法区的讨论和语法区的知识汇总

目前水平:prepGWD的准确率:85%-90%,时间基本1min一道

2.  RC

OG过了4遍,每片都写过逻辑简图,只要看懂题目基本就能做对,不过记性不好,前看后忘记,碰到细节题需要定位

目前水平:GWD的准确率:1篇错1个,时间基本8min一片

3.  CR

开始准备GMAT之前,CR很弱,所以复习上也画了最多的时间,OG过了6遍,针对每题错误的选项也作了分析

目前水平:GWD的准确率:80%,时间基本2min一道

弱点:如果题目中的信息量大,容易理不出逻辑关系,思考很久才能想明白,或是直接凭感觉奔向答案

 

4.  其他:三战的数学都上了50,作文5

 

三战前摸GWD基本每套错10-12个,逻辑3个,阅读4个,改错4-5

 

我总结的问题:

1.  我该用什么资料重新开始复习,对我而言已没有新题,我该用什么做模考

2.  我的问题到底出现在哪里,真想还有新题让我模,可以了解自己的真实水平,我甚至怀疑三战的成绩有误,想提出复议,因为碰到很多JJ题,不可能是这样的成绩

3.  我试过小安阅读法,不太适合我,我也没有试过你的阅读分析法,对我而言只要读懂文章题基本就能做对,是否要锻炼短期的记忆力,因为做阅读题我大部分是需要回视的

4.  我的心里素质很差,每次考试前的一天总是坐立不安,无所适从,要怎么才能改进

5.  想在6月中上旬4战,每天复习时间5个小时左右,上700的可能性大吗

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