WE ARE HBS CLASS OF 2009 CDERS!

夕X4

牛牛们，我想明年申请09年入学的MBA。今后从事金融行业。

背景如下：06年毕业，国内普通大学经济学本科,是与澳洲另一所高校的合作项目，同时获得澳方的管理学学位。现在一家法国leading sports company做stock manager，负责采购，库存控制等工作。（需要大量数据分析和人际交流）GMAT 700, T: 620(好像已经过期了...)， GPA: 3.4.  大学时是一个社团的founder，也参加过一些其他的学生活动。CFA level 1在考。

请问：
1. 这样的背景能算比较diversify的吗？哪些方面会比较可以突出自己？
2. 由于是英语授课获得英语国家的学位，还学要考T吗?
3. 过去的已经不能改变，在今后的一年里，做些什么可以对申请有帮助？

谢谢啦！

以下是引用yaoyao99在2007-7-29 12:29:00的发言：

1. Diversity could mean your job function, industry, background, interest, and a number of other things.  Don't worry about pleasing the admissions board.  Just tell them what you're good at and feel passionate about. 

2. I think only if all the courses were conducted in English or if you have a master's degree from an English-speaking university.

3. Start thinking about your essays, look over the application and you should know what's missing and areas that you can focus on.  You should also start researching different schools and attend information sessions if you can.  Good luck!

谢谢yaoyao的解答.. 主要课程都是英语的，除了“毛概”“邓论”之类的课....-_-，这个问题我再去问问学校。现在各个学校reseach中...

biggeo

LZ标题为什么是class of 2009? 现在应该2007在校啊?申请人也都准备2008秋季的把?

以下是引用yaoyao99在2007-7-29 11:51:00的发言：
Class of 2009 is short for the graduate class of 2009.

atalbert9

Thanks. Several questions pls. heihei

1. About the interview, how do I know that I am going to be interviewed? Through the email? or the tele notice?

2. I has diversified exp. in government, entrepreneurship, commercial banks and investment banks, so what is my focus? my goal is first to work in M&A and IPO of IB ( for now debts finance and FX trade), then to run own private banks, heihei, I wonder how to integrate the above exe. together and make a convincing issue to committe, could U pls help?

Best regards.

以下是引用yaoyao99在2007-8-7 23:56:00的发言：

1. You should receive an email from HBS MBA Admissions, titled Harvard Business School Interview Invitation.

2. There must be something in common that drove you to make those choices, your values, believes, or passion in life.  It's for you to think about why you pursued this path and decided to take on those roles.  The application process should be a rewarding self-discovery process as well.

BTW, could u pls introduce your exe. and background? issue sample would be better if not confidential... or just several guidelines of sample....

以下是引用yaoyao99在2007-8-7 23:42:00的发言：
Please see the 28th floor and class profile at http://www.hbs.edu/mba/profiles/classprofile.html

cowboystone

请问一个short-term career goal问题：

我的背景是5.5年美国半导体业工程师，EE Master's，有两个短期目标选项：

1。毕业后直接回国做咨询，因为有语言优势，但是需要自己找工作。

2，毕业后在美国做咨询，没有语言优势，但是on-campus recruiting可以帮助。

我想请问，那一个更让adcom信服？

非常感谢，这个问题困扰我有一段时间了。

以下是引用robinst在2007-8-10 2:17:00的发言：

恕我直言, 这两个short-term goal 都不怎么impressive...They would blieve you that you will join consulting after gratuation, but they may not buy in if you don't hv other aspects that make you shine.....anywahy they get so many consultants already in their class...

And looking for a consulting job in China with a degree from HBS is not that difficult....may be even easier than work as consultant in the states.

以下是引用yaoyao99在2007-8-10 9:27:00的发言：
Before you ask everyone for an answer, you need to think about which short-term goal fits well with your long-term goal and what your strengths are.  It's unlikely for you to find a job based on language or on-campus recruiting advantage.  It should be very easy to believe that you will be successful, at the location, industry, and function of your choice, with or without a MBA degree, and that you are taking a logical step towards your long-term ambition.

多谢楼上两位的意见。既然这么热心，那我就稍稍详细的说一下我的背景。

国内普通大学2000年本科毕业，2002年一个前15的Electrical Engineering Master program毕业。

2003初开始在硅谷一家startup半导体设计公司做application engineer，主要是client management，作为年龄最小的员工下帮公司签下有史以来第一个合同，很aggresive。同时由于不堪Chinese CEO的欺骗和公然克扣工资，屡劝无效情况下，带领其他员工打官司成功，我一直觉得我最大的优点就是leadership，有点天生的，特别是在最tough的情况下，别人都动摇了，我肯定顶上！

2005年8月，转到南加州一家中型美国半导体制造商，做故障分析师。觉得自己才能不在engineering上，决定申请MBA，做career-switcher. GMAT 750。刚开始由于绿卡原因，抱着试一试的态度，只申请了HBS, Stanford, Wharton。11月中29岁生日来临之前，决心不再被该死的绿卡拖累，再申请Berkeley和Duke第三轮，被Berkeley waitlist，惜未成功。

今年卷土重来，其间帮助本公司做了一个voluntary stratagy suggestion，完全属于我份外的事情，但深受好评。但是公司财政紧张，我并未获得大的提升。My title sucks, but that's because I cannot excel on things I don't have passion about. That's a double-bladed sword.

未来目标，ultimate societal goal希望成立自己的慈善机构，但是这需要金钱和名望来吸引注意力，那么ultimate professional goal是希望加入并带领一家中国企业树立国际声望，，比如说把Haier做成IBM的名望。短期目标就是management consulting,所以才有在中国还是在美国做的问题。

我首先认为自己是个非常aggresive的leader，有大局观，做事情有idea，有passion，也有执行力，但是对高人非常虚心， 性格上适合做CEO。缺点不少，比如engineer title too low, 对职业规划不太清晰，不够mature，缺乏耐心，与人交往有时候显得高傲，还有就是对细节不是很耐心，对数字不喜欢。还有在中国人看来做事情high profile。同时也意识到自己的性格缺点，在着意完善。综合一下，认为HBS is the one for me.

希望能请教的问题：

1。请问我的career path 合不合理？我个人认为合理，但是需要过来人指点，多谢！

2。我明年入学就马上满31岁，会不会不被HBS喜欢？虽然我坚信我的心永远是27岁。

3。事实上，does HBS discriminate reapplicants?

4。如果我再申请，请问通过看我的profile，我需要注意的地方和发挥的地方分别是什么？


我还会在Stanford上问问，所以如果你们同时也申请过Stanford，或者知道the answers in Stanford Version，也请指点一下，谢谢！

Cowboystone

以下是引用hbs_2009在2007-8-12 10:49:00的发言：

回答如下

1.你目前的career goal还比较宏观,如果没有理解错，是一家中国企业的CEO.是不是考虑选择一个行业方向进一步阐述。另外你长期的goal写了两个，除了professional，还有social的。这两者之间有什么关系那，如你的公司本身就是和social Interest紧密相连的？如果关系不是很紧密，建议选择professional的重点写。关于你social的一面，可以通过其他的essay反应出来。

2.HBS的平均年龄是27岁左右。今年中国人中30岁以上的有几个，所以不用太担心这个问题。

3.No particular descrimination against reapplicant.This would only show your loyalty to the school.

4.You should have a deeper self-reflection. There's not only one type of potential leaders that HBS is looking for.

xujingyi1022

想请lz帮我看看，我这样的背景，能申请HBS吗，有一点点希望吗，只要有一点点希望，我都会坚持下去的。04年复旦毕业，四大咨询公司之一做EPR咨询，GMAT760，TOEFL633，做过多个EPR实施项目，也有美国项目的工作经历，不过时间很短，就3个月。我发觉，咨询顾问申请的人太多，基本上没什么自己的特色了，我想请教的是，HBS最注重的是什么，leadership, achievement还是一定要有自己的特色呢？谢谢了！

以下是引用camelhill在2007-8-18 10:02:00的发言：

1) definitely you can apply HBS, but there's no way to tell the chance of being accepted.

2) focusing on what YOU did, and what YOU think, at the end of the day, it's YOU who is going to live in HBS and study with your classmates and professors for two years.
        

kathleenfly

请教一个essay的问题. 第一题three achievements，600个字好像很难写完，一定要严格遵守word limit吗？如果可以超过一点点，有没有个尺度呢？Many thanks!

以下是引用camelhill在2007-8-23 8:55:00的发言：

In my opinion, You'd better try to be within the word limit; even in our exam at hbs, u will get punished if u exceed the word limit.

agneszhu2010

Hi, there, thanks for sharing information with us. I have one question about recommendation letter. Shall I choose one recommender whom I haven't worked with but with a higher ranking and doctor degree (in Europe) or one I have worked with and graduate from famous USA bschool (not hbs)

以下是引用camelhill在2007-8-29 22:45:00的发言：

Choose the one that really knows you well and is supportive.
        

nbkp26o

请问一个essay问题。本人有很多community service activities. 但在essay写作中找不到很好的subject。那么，在essay中不写关于community service的东西对申请HBS是不是个很大的weakness?  谢谢！

以下是引用robinst在2007-9-7 8:06:00的发言：

不一定要写在ESSAY里， 在ONLINE要填的众多表格里， 有很大一块是让你填SOCIAL方面的活动的。

Got it! Thanks Robinst! 

QingHuang

If admitted by HBS, how to submit transcript?  Should the transcript be sent directly to HBS Or HBS also accept transcript which was issued to us?

以下是引用yaoyao99在2007-9-12 6:07:00的发言：

The school will provide you transcript request forms. 

If you received your degree(s) in the U.S. or Canada:

Please send the "U.S. or Canada Transcript Request" form to the registrar's office of each college or university you attended. The form instructs the registrar to enclose the "Transcript Request" form along with an official transcript in an envelope, seal and sign across the back flap, and return it directly to MBA Admissions at Harvard Business School. Official transcripts must come directly from the academic institution you attended; Harvard Business School will not accept transcripts sent through intermediaries or third parties.

If you received your degree(s) outside the U.S. or Canada:
Harvard Business School has contracted an outside service, World Education Services (WES), to conduct transcript verification for institutions outside the U.S. or Canada. Please send the "International Transcript Request" form to the registrar's office of each college or university you attended. The form instructs the registrar to enclose the "Transcript Request" form along with an official transcript in an envelope, seal and sign across the back flap, and return it directly to WES. Official transcripts must come directly from the academic institution you attended; World Education Services will not accept transcripts sent through intermediaries or third parties.

asupls

thanks for sharing all these.   I didn't find any info about majors in HBS. Is it because students do not have major so as to reflect the spirit of general management? Thank you very much

以下是引用yaoyao99在2007-9-17 0:21:00的发言：

Everyone gets a MBA degree with General Management focus from HBS.  You can, however, choose to focus on a specific area during your second year.  http://www.hbs.edu/mba/academics/curriculum.html