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61#
发表于 2010-2-22 14:47:11 | 只看该作者
以下是引用hollygrail在2007-12-15 3:51:00的发言:
A:they无指代,比较的平行选B

N.Y Times 原句:
Wild animals not only have less total fat than livestock fed on grain,
but more of their fat is of a kind (omega-3) thought to be good for
cardiac health, and less of a kind (omega-6) that promotes heart
disease, said the studies, published in the March issue of The European
Journal of Clinical Nutrition.


NY TIMES上的原句和本题相似度不高.已经被大幅度改写了.原句套在not only..but (also)内的----->顺便说一下,用GMAT标准来看,原句的 not only but also 也不平行.

原题选项:
B.   wild animals have less total fat than livestock fed on grain and more of a kind of fat thought to be

C.   wild animals have less total fat than that of livestock fed on grain and have more fat of a kind thought to be


C确实比B清楚,B有两处黄色词组相比的嫌疑(别告诉我说"按照句意不会歧义",SC很多比较题目,按照逻辑,按照句意都不会歧义.比如 i eat apple faster than you,这句也不会歧义,谁不知道句子是在说eat apple啊,谁也不会误会I 在吃you,问题是,现在几个选项摆在这里,有补出的,也有没补出的,ETS摆明就是要烤你补出动词避免歧义了,如果还是坚持"按照逻辑不会歧义"那就不好玩了)

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++




1此外B还有个问题是(这一条算是故意抬杠把)

B.   wild animals have less total fat than livestock fed on grain and more of a kind of fat thought to be


句子中2处蓝色的词组也容易通过and平行,产生歧义.   共同被than比较.

好比在说: I have more apples than you and XXX.

当然. 如果按照上面方式理解,原句意思是荒谬的.但是语法上来说也算是罪证把


反观C, and后又补出have,够体贴了把?



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楼上还有个朋友把B又读出一种意思,3种歧义了:

以下是引用easy4meeeeee在2007-12-21 0:02:00的发言:
B还有另外一个歧义是与原句想悖的:
fed on
grain and
more of a kind of fat

grain and
more of a kind of fat
,grain 和more of a kind平行,逻辑意思也能理解为----以谷物和脂肪为食的牲口
原句没有使用这个bug,而是用了“, but more of their fat is of a kind...”

fed on
grain and
more of a kind of fat

grain and
more of a kind of fat
,grain 和more of a kind平行,逻辑意思也能理解为----以谷物和脂肪为食的牲口
原句没有使用这个bug,而是用了“, but more of their fat is of a kind...”


++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++


B能被读出3种意思来.还敢选?


[此贴子已经被作者于2008-5-6 6:05:13编辑过]
-- by 会员 sch (2008/5/6 5:59:00)
  the explaination is clear
62#
发表于 2010-5-2 20:13:10 | 只看该作者
以下是引用hollygrail在2007-12-15 3:51:00的发言:
A:they无指代,比较的平行选B

N.Y Times 原句:
Wild animals not only have less total fat than livestock fed on grain,
but more of their fat is of a kind (omega-3) thought to be good for
cardiac health, and less of a kind (omega-6) that promotes heart
disease, said the studies, published in the March issue of The European
Journal of Clinical Nutrition.


NY TIMES上的原句和本题相似度不高.已经被大幅度改写了.原句套在not only..but (also)内的----->顺便说一下,用GMAT标准来看,原句的 not only but also 也不平行.

原题选项:
B.   wild animals have less total fat than livestock fed on grain and more of a kind of fat thought to be


C.   wild animals have less total fat than that of livestock fed on grain and have more fat of a kind thought to be




C确实比B清楚,B有两处黄色词组相比的嫌疑(别告诉我说"按照句意不会歧义",SC很多比较题目,按照逻辑,按照句意都不会歧义.比如 i eat apple faster than you,这句也不会歧义,谁不知道句子是在说eat apple啊,谁也不会误会I 在吃you,问题是,现在几个选项摆在这里,有补出的,也有没补出的,ETS摆明就是要烤你补出动词避免歧义了,如果还是坚持"按照逻辑不会歧义"那就不好玩了)


++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++








1此外B还有个问题是(这一条算是故意抬杠把)


B.   wild animals have less total fat than livestock fed on grain and more of a kind of fat thought to be




句子中2处蓝色的词组也容易通过and平行,产生歧义.   共同被than比较.


好比在说: I have more apples than you and XXX.


当然. 如果按照上面方式理解,原句意思是荒谬的.但是语法上来说也算是罪证把




反观C, and后又补出have,够体贴了把?






++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++




楼上还有个朋友把B又读出一种意思,3种歧义了:


以下是引用easy4meeeeee在2007-12-21 0:02:00的发言:
B还有另外一个歧义是与原句想悖的:
fed on
grain and
more of a kind of fat

grain and
more of a kind of fat
,grain 和more of a kind平行,逻辑意思也能理解为----以谷物和脂肪为食的牲口
原句没有使用这个bug,而是用了“, but more of their fat is of a kind...”


fed on
grain and
more of a kind of fat

grain and
more of a kind of fat
,grain 和more of a kind平行,逻辑意思也能理解为----以谷物和脂肪为食的牲口
原句没有使用这个bug,而是用了“, but more of their fat is of a kind...”


++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++




B能被读出3种意思来.还敢选?



[此贴子已经被作者于2008-5-6 6:05:13编辑过]

-- by 会员 sch (2008/5/6 5:59:00)

  the explaination is clear
-- by 会员 chasedreamho (2010/2/22 14:47:11)


反对!!
c是非常 错误的选项wild animals have less total fat than that of livestock fed on grain and have more fat of a kind thought to be就成了野生动物身上有家养牲口的脂肪了,这是非常严重的逻辑错误
63#
发表于 2010-7-15 12:48:41 | 只看该作者
老外说C不对
http://www.urch.com/forums/gmat-sentence-correction/47379-wild-animals-pls-provide-explanations-3.html,
看Bob的分析
64#
发表于 2010-9-4 01:24:38 | 只看该作者
同意楼上,我自己也觉得C不对,完全不对...
B加一个do感觉就可以了...不加的话也有点..
65#
发表于 2011-6-17 11:54:35 | 只看该作者
In addition to having more protein -than wheat does, the protein in rice is higher quality than that in wheat, with more of the amino acids essential to the human diet.

(A)the protein in rice is higher quality than that in



(B)rice has protein of higher quality than that in
(C)the protein in rice is higher in quality than it is in



(D)rice protein is higher in quality than it is in



(E)rice has a protein higher in quality than   (b)

题目最后with more of the amino acids essential to the human diet,中with的逻辑主语应该是rice而非the protein,因此,排除选项C。
66#
发表于 2011-7-29 15:25:55 | 只看该作者
我也选C,答案错了?
67#
发表于 2011-12-29 22:01:13 | 只看该作者
看完这道题的若干帖子,头痛,头痛,up.
希望NN过来过来。
68#
发表于 2012-1-24 10:36:46 | 只看该作者
up
69#
发表于 2012-1-24 18:38:03 | 只看该作者
I'm not NN, but if I can be so bold....
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In addition to having more protein -than wheat does, the protein in rice is higher quality than that in wheat, with more of the amino acids essential to the human diet.

(A)the protein in rice is higher quality than that in
(B)rice has protein of higher quality than that in
(C)the protein in rice is higher in quality than it is in
(D)rice protein is higher in quality than it is in
(E)rice has a protein higher in quality than   (b)
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首先,这个句子3个分句,结构:
Having more protein than wheat does, ..., with more AA essential to....

很显然,中间这个是主句。
后面"with + noun + noun modifier"是典型的absolute phrase结构,somehow modifies前面整个分句,没有问题。
前面"having ..." (前置的v-ing+comma)是present participle phrase acting as a noun modifier.
既然是noun modifier,那么就必须就近修饰noun,也就是说主句的主语, should be something that has more protein,所以主语必须是rice,而不能是protein!这样就排除到只剩下B和E。

还有一种思路是从Comparison结构出发,看前面"... than wheat does",那么说明肯定是把后面句子的主语和wheat比较,这就决定了后面句子的主语必须是rice。

然后看E,"rice has a protein higher in quality than wheat"
higher in quality是修饰protein的,不能修饰wheat。或者这么看,这句子错误地把protein和wheat比较。
E的表达也比较awkward.....且,"a protein"不对。

这样就得到B了。
70#
发表于 2012-1-24 18:47:49 | 只看该作者
补充下,absolute phrase相对比较灵活,只需要SOMEHOW modifies the main clause.
不需要说什么"必须noun=主句主语"之类的

with + noun + noun modifier只要意思清晰就行,GMAT里这种选项如果作为错误选项出现的话,都是因为存在ambiguity。

BY CONTRAST, "v-ing"要求很严格。
前置的"v-ing+ comma" 是作为noun modifier修饰主句的主语
后置的"comma + v-ing“是作为abverbial modifier,要求......(在此省略,给reference吧)
http://www.manhattangmat.com/forums/post30766.html#p30766

所以这道题如果从后面"with ...”结构出发来倒推的话,思路就不正确了。
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