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[原创]讨论为什么去欧洲读顶级MBA的这么少

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 楼主| 发表于 2006-7-22 00:01:00 | 只看该作者
Well, you might be right.
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发表于 2006-7-22 16:30:00 | 只看该作者
but actually I consider choosing Smirft (IN Ireland) to get MBA. whether it is popular or not dose not actually influence one's future career. It is the individual's ability and an opportunity that account.
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发表于 2006-7-23 12:26:00 | 只看该作者

看需要吧...

个人觉得一年的学习更适合需要“镀金”的人

而对于想好好在修行上面有所长进的人还是选择北美好一点,一家之言,仅作参考

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 楼主| 发表于 2006-7-24 06:15:00 | 只看该作者

修行?

It's like a monk's work...

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发表于 2006-7-25 00:15:00 | 只看该作者
以下是引用hummel在2006-7-23 12:26:00的发言:

看需要吧...

个人觉得一年的学习更适合需要“镀金”的人

而对于想好好在修行上面有所长进的人还是选择北美好一点,一家之言,仅作参考

不敢苟同。

1。一年和两年program的学业时间也就差四五个月,80%的东西在一年内就学到了。根据80-20原则,如果时间受制的话,确实没必要为了20%的东西再花一年。

2。修行的长进决不在单纯的读书上。或者更明确的说,工作一年加读书一年的长进肯定大于仅读书两载

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发表于 2006-7-26 15:13:00 | 只看该作者

我觉得很大的原因是申请人并不是很了解欧洲的情况.我想很大一部分申请MBA的人都没有出过国.最好的那几个学校都在美国,而且美国工作机会多,所以一说起读MBA,很多人都会想当然的想起美国.其实我觉得有一些认识上的误差,至少工作机会上来说,上次columbia的人说他们的MBA去的最多的三个地方就是纽约,然后就是伦敦,然后san francisco.

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发表于 2006-7-27 11:27:00 | 只看该作者
以下是引用goodssb在2006-7-26 15:13:00的发言:

上次columbia的人说他们的MBA去的最多的三个地方就是纽约,然后就是伦敦,然后san francisco.

说不定去london的本来就是去columbia读书的欧洲人呢?

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发表于 2006-7-28 09:54:00 | 只看该作者
以下是引用CDer78在2006-7-27 11:27:00的发言:

说不定去london的本来就是去columbia读书的欧洲人呢?

很好的问题.不过根据columbia官方的统计,2005班的学生中,国际学生占31%, 其中来自欧洲的占34%, 也就是说所有学生中,来自整个欧洲的只有10.54%, 所以想来这10.54%的学生中来自英国的应该也没多少了.
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发表于 2006-7-28 23:28:00 | 只看该作者
以下是引用kinchan在2006-7-25 0:15:00的发言:

不敢苟同。

1。一年和两年program的学业时间也就差四五个月,80%的东西在一年内就学到了。根据80-20原则,如果时间受制的话,确实没必要为了20%的东西再花一年。

2。修行的长进决不在单纯的读书上。或者更明确的说,工作一年加读书一年的长进肯定大于仅读书两载

The internship opportunity provided by two year program is valuable, paving the way for landing better jobs after graduatiton.

one year's work + one year's study > two years' study, yes. But how about twenty years' work + one year's study VS nineteen years' work + two years' study? (Actually, study in bschool is more practical learning)

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发表于 2006-7-29 11:18:00 | 只看该作者
以下是引用zdcgy在2006-7-28 23:28:00的发言:

The internship opportunity provided by two year program is valuable, paving the way for landing better jobs after graduatiton.

one year's work + one year's study > two years' study, yes. But how about twenty years' work + one year's study VS nineteen years' work + two years' study? (Actually, study in bschool is more practical learning)

以下是引用zdcgy在2006-7-28 23:28:00的发言:

The internship opportunity provided by two year program is valuable, paving the way for landing better jobs after graduatiton.

one year's work + one year's study > two years' study, yes. But how about twenty years' work + one year's study VS nineteen years' work + two years' study? (Actually, study in bschool is more practical learning)

1. there is internship opportunity for 1 year program as well

2. i don't quite follow your logic on the 2nd point, hehe. a. someone with enough working experience (e.g., 20 years) will probably choose 1 year program because they don't have much time to waste b. they will probably trade this "practical learning" experience with something else (e.g., start new business, stay with family. you shouldn't blame them for not taking your advice, afterall they are over 40...)

do you really think they would prefer 2 year program? wait, wait ... i almost forgot, isn't there sth called EMBA? usually short and take the part-time format

you should contiue to use vivid examples in logic reasoning. it's a powerful technique. however, you must be crystal clear about your logic, making sure it supports your argument. otherwise, you will certainly be turned down by interviewers from top firms

in my point of view, the marginal value from the 2nd year is limited

a. you already build the network in year 1 (don't tell me you need more than 12 months to know your classmates) 

b. you already has intern in year 1 (don't tell me your 1st intern cannot secure your future career)

c. your should have no problem with the language (unless you don't practice in class in the first year)

d. you have had most of the critical courses in the first 12 months

again, i have not included those emotional factors, since i am not trying to compare these two programs, nor am i trying to suggest which one is better for whom.

my point is 楼主的论点不正确,去欧洲读MBA的人不多主要原因是还没有流行起来

supporting argument

1. 欧洲申请区的人气非常少,说明大多数人根本压根没考虑过欧洲。所以楼主的几点理由不成立

2. 5年,10年前去欧洲读研的人也很少;一旦流行了,现在不有无数人往欧洲跑

3. 论坛上看到有很多搞IT的也在考cfa,可见中国人跟风的习惯

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