[原创]讨论为什么去欧洲读顶级MBA的这么少

nnm

以下是引用爷爷泡的茶在2006-11-14 8:03:00的发言：
那请教一下在欧洲读MBA再在美国公司找到工作的人多不？是不是这样就不会被税收问题所困扰了？

Generally speaking, not a good idea (I mean from EU to US).

If you really care about Tax Rate, go to Singapore or Hongkong.

Not mainland China or US, where the Tax Rate is not really low anyway.

Huangzizeng

以下是引用esprit在2006-11-14 3:18:00的发言：
楼上那个国家？

北欧小国芬兰, 现在努力转投他国中.

jinlongyi

Have a little faith...

Huangzizeng

你在什么国家啊?

Huangzizeng

你要找到工作啊，美国公司的节奏比欧洲快啊。

biochemistry

i don'w know where people get the info that studying at LBS costs CNY 1million? also i don't understand why people think LBS is more expensive than US bschools? those US bschools that are ranked higher than LBS costs a lot more than CNY 1million.

you will be ok as long as you go to a top bschool and by top bschool, don't just narrow down to only the top ten on the ranking. after all, when you start to find a job, the school you graduated from only counts for 30 percent and who you are counts for the rest 70 percent.

the arguement between kinchan and nnm is meaningless and neither of them got to the point. yes there are more good schools in the states, but also there are more grabage schools in the states too and there are more international students in the grabage schools than in the good ones. if yourself is good enough, it really doesn't matter where you go to study MBA. and if you are not good enough, EU and the US are both just dreams.

nnm

以下是引用biochemistry在2006-11-25 10:53:00的发言：

i don'w know where people get the info that studying at LBS costs CNY 1million? also i don't understand why people think LBS is more expensive than US bschools? those US bschools that are ranked higher than LBS costs a lot more than CNY 1million.

Simply do a calculation. (Have u ever lived in London???)

Tution 45000P + Living 1000*21 + other(travel, book etc) 2000 - intern 2000 = 66000 P = 990000 CNY

or simply go to http://www.london.edu/mba/feesandfinancing.html for a official estimation, which is even more expensive

you will be ok as long as you go to a top bschool and by top bschool, don't just narrow down to only the top ten on the ranking. after all, when you start to find a job, the school you graduated from only counts for 30 percent and who you are counts for the rest 70 percent.

the arguement between kinchan and nnm is meaningless and neither of them got to the point. yes there are more good schools in the states, but also there are more grabage schools in the states too and there are more international students in the grabage schools than in the good ones. if yourself is good enough, it really doesn't matter where you go to study MBA. and if you are not good enough, EU and the US are both just dreams.

Ok, to summarize, what u r saying is: Only one himeself counts, don't bother struggling for good b-school.

I gotcha........................

biochemistry

以下是引用nnm在2006-11-25 11:17:00的发言：

well, if you need 21 months to finish it and without any funing or scholarship, yes you would pay a lot more. but even that being said, it's still cheaper than the top 4 US schools.

if you think what i was saying is yourself counts for 100 percent, but not 70 percent, then i would not be surprised by you need 21 months to finish the study without any scholarship. but i would be surprised how you get into LBS, if you are really studying or studied at LBS.

after you find a job in IB, or maybe you've already done so, go to a director or VP, if you could, and ask them the weight they put on when evaluating your application for your job, you will know what i was saying.

also, just in case you are not in IB, go and ask the career services of your Bschool, and see how much weight they would put on about their school for a graduate to find a good job,

nnm

以下是引用biochemistry在2006-11-25 11:32:00的发言：

well, if you need 21 months to finish it and without any funing or scholarship, yes you would pay a lot more. but even that being said, it's still cheaper than the top 4 US schools.

Where does this conclusion come from?? Also u have to pay back the fund and whether u can get scholarship really depends (at least harder than US schools)

if you think what i was saying is yourself counts for 100 percent, but not 70 percent, then i would not be surprised by you need 21 months to finish the study without any scholarship. but i would be surprised how you get into LBS, if you are really studying or studied at LBS.

after you find a job in IB, or maybe you've already done so, go to a director or VP, if you could, and ask them the weight they put on when evaluating your application for your job, you will know what i was saying.

also, just in case you are not in IB, go and ask the career services of your Bschool, and see how much weight they would put on about their school for a graduate to find a good job,

Although it's a bit hard to understand what you are trying to convey (based on your circling words), I agree that one himeself counts a lot.   But i do insist that the school counts no less. That's the reallity. Probably u can put out some examples of NNs who are not graduate of Top-10 or 20, but i can give you a million more reverse examples.

Anyway, both count, but the school counts more than 30%.

Or put it this way: The school is the ice-breaker and then the experience/stength is the door-opener. If someone is not able to attract the eye balls of the recruiter, no matter how good he is, he can't be recognised ( by IBer in this case)

By the way, i'm not IBer and not interested in ( So far).

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biochemistry

以下是引用nnm在2006-11-25 11:51:00的发言：

alrite, if you are this slow, then i will tell you, go back to what i wrote, i said as long as you are in a top bschool, you will be ok. and this is what i meant by the 30 percent. in other words, by attending a top bschool, you only had a platform where you could build yourself, but not gurantee for a job offer post-graduation. there are graduates from top bschools who couldn't find an ideal or desired job. so as long as you can get an offer from top bschool, doesn't matter if it's from the states or EU, it does not differ that much, what differenciate people is how they build up themslves prior to attending bschools, during their study and after their  graduation. so this is what i meant by who-you-are counts for 70 percent.

for the cost of the top US schools, the costs of Wharton, HBS, MIT and Stanford are indeed expensive than LBS. just ask someone from those schools for go to their website. note that most of the US bschools display the tuition and cost for the first year, and most of them need two years of study.

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