I'm the best! 追逐梦想2006今之暂别GMAT，重振河山待6月

fayer

To: 219楼

Because she knew many of the leaders ......, Mercy Otis Warren was continually at or near the center of political events from 1765 to 1789, a vantage point combining with her talent for writing to make her one of the most valuable historians of the ear

(a)    a vantage point combining with her talent for writing to make  --> (be) conbimed with, 该选项排除！

(b)    a vantage point, when combined with her talent for writing, that made

--〉这个选项只是一个名词 point，that作它的定语修饰，结果整句话变成了"从1965到1978年间，一个时点"， 你可以把point作为前面的同位语，但前提是逻辑上必须通，这里我引号中的部分逻辑上错的，因为这句话这样写是无意义的。 请体会一下......

(c)    a vantage point that combined with her talent for writing, and it made --〉it不能指待前面一个“句子”，故排除！

(d)    and this vantage point, which combined with her talent for writing to make

--->错误的原因同b选项，只是形式不同罢了！请再体会一下

(e)    and this vantage point, combined with her talent for writing, made

司香尉

以下是引用追逐梦想2006在2006-2-8 20:11:00的发言：

Before scientists learned how to make a synthetic growth hormone, removing it painstakingly in small amounts from the pituitary glands of human cadavers.

(a)    scientists learned how to make a synthetic growth hormone, removing it painstakingly

(b)    scientists had learned about making a synthetic growth hormone, they had to remove it painstakingly

(c)    scientists learned how to synthesize the growth hormone, it had to be painstakingly removed

(d)    learning how to make a synthetic growth hormone, scientists had to remove it painstakingly

(e)    learning how to synthesize the growth hormone, it had to be painstakingly removed by scientists

答案选C，D为什么不可以？

D用了现在分词，新东方的课程中曾经说现在分词强调的是重复性动作,D用了句子强调的是一次性动作，偶是这样理解的，请NN指教

追逐梦想2006

a vantage point, when combined with her talent for writing, that made

when combined with her talent for writing看成一个插入语，很多这种结构的。

司香尉

以下是引用fayer在2006-2-8 21:03:00的发言：

To: 219楼

Because she knew many of the leaders ......, Mercy Otis Warren was continually at or near the center of political events from 1765 to 1789, a vantage point combining with her talent for writing to make her one of the most valuable historians of the ear

(a)    a vantage point combining with her talent for writing to make  --> (be) conbimed with, 该选项排除！

(b)    a vantage point, when combined with her talent for writing, that made

--〉这个选项只是一个名词 point，that作它的定语修饰，结果整句话变成了"从1965到1978年间，一个时点"， 你可以把point作为前面的同位语，但前提是逻辑上必须通，这里我引号中的部分逻辑上错的，因为这句话这样写是无意义的。 请体会一下......

(c)    a vantage point that combined with her talent for writing, and it made --〉it不能指待前面一个“句子”，故排除！

(d)    and this vantage point, which combined with her talent for writing to make

--->错误的原因同b选项，只是形式不同罢了！请再体会一下

(e)    and this vantage point, combined with her talent for writing, made

也就是说B中a vantage point在这里如果作为前面整个句子的同位语的话，句子不成立是不是？

偶觉得逻辑上是说得通，就是不知道这样的同位语是否是成立的。但是B中的定语从句用that修饰肯定是错的。

[此贴子已经被作者于2006-2-8 21:27:54编辑过]

司香尉

呵呵，fayer每次回答问题的方式都好象OG11th哦，每个选项都详细分析。不象偶，粗线条，要学习这种思考方式！

追逐梦想2006

以下是引用fayer在2006-2-8 21:03:00的发言：

To: 219楼

Because she knew many of the leaders ......, Mercy Otis Warren was continually at or near the center of political events from 1765 to 1789, a vantage point combining with her talent for writing to make her one of the most valuable historians of the ear

(a)    a vantage point combining with her talent for writing to make  --> (be) conbimed with, 该选项排除！

(b)    a vantage point, when combined with her talent for writing, that made

--〉这个选项只是一个名词 point，that作它的定语修饰，结果整句话变成了"从1965到1978年间，一个时点"， 你可以把point作为前面的同位语，但前提是逻辑上必须通，这里我引号中的部分逻辑上错的，因为这句话这样写是无意义的。 请体会一下......

(c)    a vantage point that combined with her talent for writing, and it made --〉it不能指待前面一个“句子”，故排除！

(d)    and this vantage point, which combined with her talent for writing to make

--->错误的原因同b选项，只是形式不同罢了！请再体会一下

(e)    and this vantage point, combined with her talent for writing, made

fayer妹妹别走，还有问题请教

我选B的原因是把point看成center of political events 的同位语，而你理解成from 1765 to 1789的同位语；

如果因为既可以理解成时间，又可以理解成center，那么E也不能解决这个矛盾。

再次请教！

fayer

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也就是说B中a vantage point在这里如果作为前面整个句子的同位语的话，句子不成立是不是？偶觉得逻辑上是说得通，就是不知道这样的同位语是否是成立的。但是B中的定语从句用that修饰肯定是错的。

1.原句即A要表达的是：因为MOW这个人认识很多leader，所以她能够在1976到1985年间始终位于政界中央；结合她写作的优势，这个关键点使她成为那个时代最有价值的历史学家。（强调的是一个动态的过程）

而B表达的意思是：......；当结合她的写作优势，一个使她成为...的关键点。（从句when + 名词，没有了主句，错误！而且从意思上讲，强调的只是一个名词）

2. a vantage point, when combined with her talent for writing, that made =  a vantage point that mede ...... when combined with her talent for writing, 所以该定语从句用that是可以的，when可以看作插入语。

我选B的原因是把point看成center of political events 的同位语，而你理解成from 1765 to 1789的同位语； 如果因为既可以理解成时间，又可以理解成center，那么E也不能解决这个矛盾。

我认为这里无论作两者谁的同位语都是相同的含义,因为这个point是一个抽象词，就是指这段时间中的事情，因此没有歧义。

[此贴子已经被作者于2006-2-8 22:37:24编辑过]

追逐梦想2006

to fayer妹妹：谢谢你讲了这么多。但是我还是认为同位语要比一个句子好（1）保留了原文的含意；（2）GMAT的一般规律是同位语优先；（3）没有看出什么是动态的过程。

刚刚在电脑前坐了10分钟，终于看出下面这道题的险恶用心了

Before scientists learned how to make a synthetic growth hormone, removing it painstakingly in small amounts from the pituitary glands of human cadavers.

(a)    scientists learned how to make a synthetic growth hormone, removing it painstakingly

(b)    scientists had learned about making a synthetic growth hormone, they had to remove it painstakingly

(c)    scientists learned how to synthesize the growth hormone, it had to be painstakingly removed

(d)    learning how to make a synthetic growth hormone, scientists had to remove it painstakingly

(e)    learning how to synthesize the growth hormone, it had to be painstakingly removed by scientists

答案选C，D为什么不可以？

我一开始认为“主动优于被动”，而且C中的it指代hormone，it had to be removed总觉得特别拗口。其实考点不在这里，在划线的前半段和划线之后的逻辑关系上。

C选项是synthesize the growth hormone,it 指代the growth hormone, 画线后说从死者的身体上取出来；

D选项是说make a synthetic growth hormone, it指代 a synthetic growth hormone，人造hormone；与画线后说从人的身体里取出逻辑上不通，所以只能选择CE，而E的逻辑主语有问题。

ACT的良心是大大的坏了！

[此贴子已经被作者于2006-2-9 10:23:59编辑过]

追逐梦想2006

我去模考了，做好继续被打击的准备！怎么才能使verbal错在10个以内，而且不超时呢？

司香尉

以下是引用追逐梦想2006在2006-2-9 10:22:00的发言：

to fayer妹妹：谢谢你讲了这么多。但是我还是认为同位语要比一个句子好（1）保留了原文的含意；（2）GMAT的一般规律是同位语优先；（3）没有看出什么是动态的过程。

刚刚在电脑前坐了10分钟，终于看出下面这道题的险恶用心了

Before scientists learned how to make a synthetic growth hormone, removing it painstakingly in small amounts from the pituitary glands of human cadavers.

(a)    scientists learned how to make a synthetic growth hormone, removing it painstakingly

(b)    scientists had learned about making a synthetic growth hormone, they had to remove it painstakingly

(c)    scientists learned how to synthesize the growth hormone, it had to be painstakingly removed

(d)    learning how to make a synthetic growth hormone, scientists had to remove it painstakingly

(e)    learning how to synthesize the growth hormone, it had to be painstakingly removed by scientists

答案选C，D为什么不可以？

我一开始认为“主动优于被动”，而且C中的it指代hormone，it had to be removed总觉得特别拗口。其实考点不在这里，在划线的前半段和划线之后的逻辑关系上。

C选项是synthesize the growth hormone,it 指代the growth hormone, 画线后说从死者的身体上取出来；

D选项是说make a synthetic growth hormone, it指代 a synthetic growth hormone，人造hormone；与画线后说从人的身体里取出逻辑上不通，所以只能选择CE，而E的逻辑主语有问题。

ACT的良心是大大的坏了！

上面这道题，晕啊，看了LZ的解释才恍然大悟，完全同意LZ对ETS的评语！

关于同位语，偶还是觉得如果B是a vantage point that made……这样的同位语形式应该是可以用的，但是这里又还要插入一个when combined with her talent for writing，变成了一个名词+when从句+修饰名词的定语从句 这样形式明显句子不成立，所以索性另起炉灶，把同位语变成一个句子，解决了这个问题，LZ你觉得呢？