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[咨询答疑] 【留学中介】小白提问环节,大家申请phd的时候都有找留学中介帮忙吗???

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11#
发表于 2020-6-10 22:32:42 | 只看该作者
感觉楼上的各位大佬说的有些太严重了...找中介浪费钱是必然的,但是只要自己心里有数不盲信中介的,肯定不会带来负收益,只能说边际收益比较小而已。而且据我所知,现在一些比较新的中介都有所谓的mentor制度,让一个phd candidate全程指导你的准备和申请,文书什么的还都是你自己写,他们只负责给你改语法。其实如果真的是这种模式,一个本专业的phd candidate对你所有的问题都有问必答还给你制定好计划,我感觉是肯定会有帮助的。某家中介今年甚至给一个陆本申到了wharton的acct还是fin来着。不过这种咨询服务值不值上万人民币,就见仁见智了。
12#
发表于 2020-6-10 23:59:39 | 只看该作者
古天乐 发表于 2020-6-10 02:59
同意
想死就去
不怕浪费钱就去

這個策略拿去申碩士也是想死/不怕浪费钱就去...

中介太過參差太齊, 有那個選個好中介的功夫, 都夠時間自己搞定問題了.


至於PhD的話, 連自己研究的能力/時間都沒有的話, 還申甚麼PhD?
13#
发表于 2020-6-11 00:59:09 | 只看该作者
cheesechan 发表于 2020-6-10 23:59
這個策略拿去申碩士也是想死/不怕浪费钱就去...

中介太過參差太齊, 有那個選個好中介的功夫, 都夠時間自 ...

Can't agree more.
14#
发表于 2020-6-11 04:40:12 发自手机 Web 版 | 只看该作者
luck2019 发表于 2020-6-10 22:32
感觉楼上的各位大佬说的有些太严重了...找中介浪费钱是必然的,但是只要自己心里有数不盲信中介的,肯定不 ...


你确定这里的causality不是申请上Wharton了被中介拉去打广告?
15#
发表于 2020-6-11 04:49:32 | 只看该作者
中介能做的事情就是:
(1)帮你写文书初稿-大概率套的是前人模版
(2)选校填表
(3)一些寄送材料的事务性工作

这里的(1)是一个深度剖析自己的过程-我觉得没人比你自己更清楚你想要做什么,(2)(3)这个工作并不值得他们那个报价-我听说好一点的商学院phD申请报价都快2w美金了。当然不差钱的人当我没说
16#
发表于 2020-6-15 19:27:05 | 只看该作者
我有!我觉得我是身边人中找中介最成功的一个了。他们不仅是文书上帮助很大,还有素材挖掘,CV的包装。不过我是研究生申请,有面试环节,这个他们的辅导真是绝了,牛津和LBS的面试都找来了同一专业的graduate做的面试辅导
17#
发表于 2020-6-15 19:53:07 | 只看该作者
小公主萌萌 发表于 2020-6-15 19:27
我有!我觉得我是身边人中找中介最成功的一个了。他们不仅是文书上帮助很大,还有素材挖掘,CV的包装。不过 ...

Master就别来凑热闹了
18#
发表于 2020-6-15 21:39:03 | 只看该作者
小公主萌萌 发表于 2020-6-15 19:27
我有!我觉得我是身边人中找中介最成功的一个了。他们不仅是文书上帮助很大,还有素材挖掘,CV的包装。不过 ...

master和phd的申请可以说是两码事。。。
19#
发表于 2020-6-30 08:42:13 | 只看该作者
申请硕士的时候找的中介花了三万五,最后PS还是我自己重写的,博士自己申请,感觉反而容易很多,按照自己的思路写PS。另外中介申请博士保录可是很贵的,我知道的要十万块钱。有这钱出去旅旅游看看世界他不香吗?
20#
发表于 2020-6-30 18:33:33 | 只看该作者
I believe paid services do help undergraduate level applicants or some graduate level applicants, but not PhD level applicants.

WHY? Most of the consultants do not hold a PhD degree, most of the consultants have no idea what true reasearch life is? Not to say, if you want to apply for PhD in Economics or Finance.   Do the consultants know who is the leading scholar in the sub-field, as some universities may be specialized in asset pricing, some others may be specialized in corporate finance. Basically, they don‘t know more information than you, provinding that you have attended some academic conferrences, write some research papers, or cite some important papers.

But, there are some exceptions: it is ok to find a paid service, if you are not price sensitive and if your english is really bad.

The disadvantage is that for personal statement, the content must be research-density, otherwise, you cannot convince a professor to hire you as a PhD candidate. Therefore, under all situations, it is your duty to market yourself in front of others, because you know what"s inside your guts, so you can make a custimzed info better than anyother. Paid consultants can indeed help you with some literature-style materials, but to academics, such materials are gabage, if they are irrelevant to research. (You may refer to the writing samples from Philp J. Guo (PhD at Stanford, Assitant Professor at UCSD) and work on your own).

From incentives perspective, you are looking for the optimal PhD program, which means hard to be admitted, taking account of your background; the paid services are ,on the other hand, looking for programs that are optimal for them not for you as long as you are admitted by one of the applied programs (say, this program admits many Chinese students, the quality of admitted applicants have a high variance, ultimately, they will lower the choices and mitigate with a medim-difficult programs in order to increase the admission odds). Therefore, the aligning your best interest with paid service is damn difficult.

Lastly, PhD is about research from tons of tedious and irrelevant information, and screening them to find most useful information to you. Think twice if you are ready for a PhD, if you cannot DIY. You will spend the next 4-6 years staying in this program, do it wisely, do it prudently, on your own.


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