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[校友答疑] 是美国top15,insead还是回国读中欧长江

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 楼主| 发表于 2017-4-19 09:41:46 | 显示全部楼层
JonFrank 发表于 2017-4-17 15:52
Hey there,
I think there’s no one true answer here. Because people do get good jobs from programs ...

Thank you so much Jon for your kind analysis! That is exactly the reason why CD forum is the best in the field

I am totally aligned with your points above. Will plan for the application accordingly.

One more follow up question, what is the healthy number of schools should 1 students apply. (With a full time job, it is quite challenging to prepare for too many schools). Some of my friends was telling me that he prepared for 4 school in last year application and it is already killing him. Would love to listen to your thought on this. Or to make it simple, how many weeks in average should I prepare to allocate to 1 school (assuming the heavy lifting for first school has completed)

 楼主| 发表于 2017-4-19 09:46:56 | 显示全部楼层
humingyi 发表于 2017-4-17 20:08
楼主你好,我去年到今年刚好经历了这样的思考。我十多岁来新加坡,已经呆了十年。2017准备读mba,gmat也刚 ...

哈哈 真的好巧!坡岛的圈子也不大说不定咱们还认识
我觉得咱们的背景经历确实很相似,能冒昧的问一句您今年总共申请了几所学校啊?在你心里的顺位又是怎样的呢? (e.g. HWS > Insead = other top 7 > S16 > CEIBS?)
我有事情耽误错过了17年的申请,现在在target明年的录取了,希望能跟你多多取经
 楼主| 发表于 2017-4-19 09:48:51 | 显示全部楼层
ukyo2003 发表于 2017-4-18 06:49
我觉得对你来说在新加坡读蛮好的

在新加坡是比较舒适,但也想出去闯闯走出comfort zone啦...
 楼主| 发表于 2017-4-19 09:50:14 | 显示全部楼层
pterosaur 发表于 2017-4-18 14:28
我也觉得对于你而言,留在新加坡就好了。

感觉国内的市场大机会多一些,不过人在外面久了也不清楚具体的现状。能问下为什么建议我留在这边呢?
发表于 2017-4-20 11:27:13 | 显示全部楼层
yanh0004 发表于 2017-4-19 09:41
Thank you so much Jon for your kind analysis! That is exactly the reason why CD forum is the best  ...

Hey!
So I think how much time you need to allocate depends whether you are working on your applications with a consultant or not. With a consultant it will be inevitably faster. Normally we do the first school in 3-4 weeks for a full package and then 2-3 weeks per additional school. (But it depends a lot on the client. I had one Russian female client who did 11 packages in 30 days!!!) As for the number of schools, keep in mind 2 things: 1. you need to apply to enough schools to make a sound strategy (this would be about 4-5 schools) 2. The more schools you apply to (that you would be willing to go to) the better chances you have of getting in and/or of getting scholarship money. Practically speaking most people apply from 3-9 schools. Although some apply to 1, and some apply to 12.

I hope this helps!
Best,
Jon Frank
发表于 2017-4-20 14:36:58 | 显示全部楼层
yanh0004 发表于 2017-4-19 09:50
感觉国内的市场大机会多一些,不过人在外面久了也不清楚具体的现状。能问下为什么建议我留在这边呢? ...

Hi Bro 你认为国内的机会多一些,这是事实, 不管你是想做哪一个行业的,国内都有成功的例子!但你要选择的是对你而言最合适的。恕我直言,我觉得你已经离开大陆时间有点久,你确定你可以在18个月的时间内适应这边的商业环境?你想从事的是医疗相关的行业,如果薪水低,老板素质低,企业效率低,你可以在这样的国企或者民企中忍耐多久?如果你只能去外企,那么不管是在国内还是在国外M7或者S16在未来职业的发展上都更具说服力。
发表于 2017-4-22 03:58:02 | 显示全部楼层
yanh0004 发表于 2017-4-19 09:50
感觉国内的市场大机会多一些,不过人在外面久了也不清楚具体的现状。能问下为什么建议我留在这边呢? ...

我是这样想的,只是个人建议请旁观的勿喷啊。

首先如果没有强烈的移民倾向,对资深职业人士来说读mba在职的会更balance;然后新加坡是你最熟悉的水域,获得资源的机会更多,国内这几年市场是很大,但是我认为你到中欧读全职2年内并不一定会获得在新加坡读在职mba更多的资源,尤其你本身就是有一定国际network的;最后南洋理工和MIT有一个合作MBA项目,各一年,如果你还没有研究过这个项目可以看一下,说不定多一些思路。

在职久了要做一个选择需要balance很多东西,不再像初出茅庐单纯凭一腔热血到处从头做起,希望你能找到最适合你的(不一定是别人看起来最好的)选择。

发表于 2017-4-22 20:31:43 | 显示全部楼层
yanh0004 发表于 2017-4-19 09:46
哈哈 真的好巧!坡岛的圈子也不大说不定咱们还认识
我觉得咱们的背景经历确实很相似,能冒昧的问一句您 ...

我的排序是INSEAD>HWS>CEIBS>M7
INSEAD top 1一方面跟他在CONSULTING的强势有关,一方面因为它有主校区在SG。说实话报Havard主要是为了benchmark一下自己的profile~
其他的M7说实话并没有考虑去读,因为2年花在美国,又不准备留那边,其实很不值,尤其M7的network+case基本还是以北美为主的。
CEIBS是被INSEAD waitlist之后紧急补报的,因为最近刚决定回国,考察了一下发下CEIBS在国内的各种行业尤其VC/PE和创业圈的network真是很强。而且MBB在CEIBS也有校招。所以用来backup INSEAD还是挺合适的。
如果lz不介意去远一点地方读书的话,我觉得M7和LBS都是可以考虑的。毕竟以你的profile应该其他学校的商学院不管是reputation还是实际的knowledge set上都很难有显著提升了吧。
发表于 2017-4-22 20:34:21 | 显示全部楼层
btw,答主发我下微信吧~可以多交流^^
 楼主| 发表于 2017-4-23 18:07:25 | 显示全部楼层
pterosaur 发表于 2017-4-20 14:36
Hi Bro 你认为国内的机会多一些,这是很明显的, 不管你是想做哪一个行业的,国内都有成功的例子!但你要 ...

哈哈,thanks bro!
很有道理,在国外待久的人总有一些错觉,认为回国后的机会环境会更加海阔天空...事实上有太多的东西需要去考虑和适应,it is not for everyone...到最后还是要考虑自己的志向和未来规划了
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