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191#
发表于 2005-8-30 19:20:00 | 只看该作者
以下是引用tania在2005-8-30 15:14:00的发言:

gwd-7-Q4:


Only seven people this century have been killed by the great white shark, the man-eater of the movies—less than those killed by bee stings.







  1. movies—less than those

  2. movies—fewer than have been

  3. movies, which is less than those

  4. movies, a number lower than the people

  5. movies, fewer than the ones

网上有好多讨论帖,争论b还是e,欧看了一中午,忽然有个想法,查了查longman中one的用法


one:


used to mean someone or something of a type that has already been mentioned or is known about


也就是说,one 一般是特指,就是指前面出现过的那个东东,两者是一样的


所以这里E是不对的,否则就变成了被大白鲨杀死的那7个人的数目小于被蜜蜂蛰死了的那7个人的数目,逻辑上严重不通。


不知偶理解的对不对?



这个题我也疑惑过,曾经选过E;现在看来,B更好一点。


关于ones的指代,记得上XDF的时候老师讲过,应该是指代前面出现过的名次词组的核心词;在此题中,我认为the ones指代peole,而不是only seven people。所以,ones指代没有问题。请看大全-11-9:


         The proposed urban development zones do not represent a new principle; it was employed in “Operation Bootstrap” in Puerto Rico.


(A) do not represent a new principle; it


(B) represent not a new principle, but one that


(C) are not a new principle; the same one


(D) are not a new principle, but one thatB


(E) are not new in principle; it



选B还有一个原因:have been用的很好,突出了是现在完成时,跟this century遥相呼应。关于这点,请参考OG-187


187. In one of the bloodiest battles of the Civil War, fought at Sharpsburg, Maryland, on September 17, 1862, four times as many Americans were killed as would later be killed on the beaches of Normandy during D-Day.


(A)  Americans were killed as


(B)  Americans were killed than


(C)  Americans were killed than those who


(D)  more Americans were killed as there (A)


(E)   more Americans were killed as those who


突出时态能够令逻辑意思更清楚。


个人意见。




192#
 楼主| 发表于 2005-8-30 19:52:00 | 只看该作者
以下是引用ethyl在2005-8-30 19:20:00的发言:



这个题我也疑惑过,曾经选过E;现在看来,B更好一点。


关于ones的指代,记得上XDF的时候老师讲过,应该是指代前面出现过的名次词组的核心词;在此题中,我认为the ones指代peole,而不是only seven people。所以,ones指代没有问题。请看大全-11-9:


         The proposed urban development zones do not represent a new principle; it was employed in “Operation Bootstrap” in Puerto Rico.


(A) do not represent a new principle; it


(B) represent not a new principle, but one that


(C) are not a new principle; the same one


(D) are not a new principle, but one thatB


(E) are not new in principle; it



选B还有一个原因:have been用的很好,突出了是现在完成时,跟this century遥相呼应。关于这点,请参考OG-187


187. In one of the bloodiest battles of the Civil War, fought at Sharpsburg, Maryland, on September 17, 1862, four times as many Americans were killed as would later be killed on the beaches of Normandy during D-Day.


(A)  Americans were killed as


(B)  Americans were killed than


(C)  Americans were killed than those who


(D)  more Americans were killed as there (A)


(E)   more Americans were killed as those who


突出时态能够令逻辑意思更清楚。


个人意见。




谢谢ethyl关于ones的及时解释,看来偶理解错了

也就说e的错误主要是在于时态,是不是可以这么理解:the ones killed by bee stings.是the ones who was killed by bee stings 的省略形式,过去时与前文的现在进行时比较不合理,因为如果后文的时态是现在进行时的话,省略形式应为the ones having been killed by bee stings。所以E选项不对

193#
发表于 2005-8-30 21:05:00 | 只看该作者
以下是引用tania在2005-8-30 19:52:00的发言:


谢谢ethyl关于ones的及时解释,看来偶理解错了

也就说e的错误主要是在于时态,是不是可以这么理解:the ones killed by bee stings.是the ones who was killed by bee stings 的省略形式,过去时与前文的现在进行时比较不合理,因为如果后文的时态是现在进行时的话,省略形式应为the ones having been killed by bee stings。所以E选项不对


这样说反而有awkward之嫌;直接说fewer than have been killed多简洁。

194#
 楼主| 发表于 2005-8-30 21:15:00 | 只看该作者
同意!谢谢ethyl
195#
发表于 2005-8-31 00:02:00 | 只看该作者
以下是引用tania在2005-8-30 15:14:00的发言:

gwd-7-Q4:


Only seven people this century have been killed by the great white shark, the man-eater of the movies—less than those killed by bee stings.







  1. movies—less than those

  2. movies—fewer than have been

  3. movies, which is less than those

  4. movies, a number lower than the people

  5. movies, fewer than the ones

网上有好多讨论帖,争论b还是e,欧看了一中午,忽然有个想法,查了查longman中one的用法


one:


used to mean someone or something of a type that has already been mentioned or is known about


也就是说,one 一般是特指,就是指前面出现过的那个东东,两者是一样的


所以这里E是不对的,否则就变成了被大白鲨杀死的那7个人的数目小于被蜜蜂蛰死了的那7个人的数目,逻辑上严重不通。


不知偶理解的对不对?



tania, 这题我很早讨论过。我同意E的。我觉得正因为两者指的people不是同一个,所以要补出the ones,the表示特指那些被sting死去的人,用来和前面区分开来。我不同意B,B的省略默认了后面的主语“人” 和前面是同一个。另外,我觉得“---”应该紧跟被修饰的词,不应该放在movies后面,容易造成ambiguous。


总结以上两点,我同意选E的。


昨天我第一天开学,很累。所以早睡了。做了2个section的SC,做了点数学,就没有做阅读。开学后教授们又可以疯狂轰炸我们了。

196#
 楼主| 发表于 2005-8-31 00:12:00 | 只看该作者
以下是引用babypace在2005-8-31 0:02:00的发言:



tania, 这题我很早讨论过。我同意E的。我觉得正因为两者指的people不是同一个,所以要补出the ones,the表示特指那些被sting死去的人,用来和前面区分开来。我不同意B,B的省略默认了后面的主语“人” 和前面是同一个(我觉得这个说法是不成立的,例证见下)。另外,我觉得“---”应该紧跟被修饰的词,不应该放在movies后面,容易造成ambiguous。


总结以上两点,我同意选E的。


昨天我第一天开学,很累。所以早睡了。(唉,原来上学跟上班一样辛苦!做了2个section的SC,做了点数学,就没有做阅读。开学后教授们又可以疯狂轰炸我们了。


Since the movie was released seventeen UFOs have been sighted in the state, which is more than had been sighted in the past ten years together.


(A) which is more than had been sighted


(B) more than had been sighted


(C) more than they had sighted


(D) more than had reported sightingsB


(E) which is more than had reported sightings


很明显,b选项里面more than had been sighted省略了UFOs,但这里省略的UFOs不等于前面的那17个UFOs。


而且如果补出省略成分,e选项也存在时态的问题,你觉得呢?



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197#
发表于 2005-8-31 00:31:00 | 只看该作者
以下是引用tania在2005-8-31 0:12:00的发言:


Since the movie was released seventeen UFOs have been sighted in the state, which is more than had been sighted in the past ten years together.


(A) which is more than had been sighted


(B) more than had been sighted


(C) more than they had sighted


(D) more than had reported sightingsB


(E) which is more than had reported sightings


很明显,b选项里面more than had been sighted省略了UFOs,但这里省略的UFOs不等于前面的那17个UFOs。


而且如果补出省略成分,e选项也存在时态的问题,你觉得呢?




我这一句用的排除法,D和E显然不对,原句中没有Report的意思。剩下在ABC中选

A中which不明确

C中they知道UFOs,但是后面应该是被动语态

所以选B

198#
发表于 2005-8-31 01:20:00 | 只看该作者

GWD7-4, I support B!

199#
发表于 2005-8-31 08:09:00 | 只看该作者

tania mm,我进度比你慢,做的题目是无重复的,跟你不一样,所以这两天都没参加讨论.


不过我有些问题想请教,可以贴在你这里吗?

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发表于 2005-8-31 09:07:00 | 只看该作者
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