去西北还是芝加哥? (Kellogg or Chicago GSB)

janechen

I don't think Kellogg in anyway neglects the China region. It's true that it hasn't accepted as many as Chicago GSB has done in the past few years. (I don't have the REAL statistics at both schools. CD forum is just a sample). One key that contributed to the different acceptance ratio of mainland applicants is the placement at both schools. Kellogg is known as a GM/Marketing school. And marketing, as far as I know, has not been  superfriendly to non-native English speakers. Chicao GSB is known as a feeder to quant-heavy finance school, which is our strength. US economy has been down in the past few years (2002-2004), As always, b-schools are concerned with placement, as it plays right into the ranking. It's hard to tell how many Chinese have applied to either school. Perhaps it also reflects the trends of applicants. It almost seems like eveyone here on CD is interested in finance (IB, IM, PE).

I cannot comment on the "brand name" of these two in China. In the US, they are considered equally caliber, both are solid M7. People apply based on their post-MBA plans. It also depends on your personal style. Do you prefer to study/work in team or by yourself?

just my 0.02

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zixiahu

先恭喜楼主了！能拿到这两个学校的admission，说明你的实力非常强劲。正巧这两个学校我也都申请了，目前已经被Kellogg据了，还在等待Chicago的消息，估计得到5月份才能知道结果。

谈到排名，我个人的看法是对于国内的普通人来说，除了哈佛、耶鲁、斯坦福、麻省理工，其他的学校都没有什么本质上的区别。这也和国内过去留学的人偏重于理工科和研究方向有关。所以，如果你关心的是普通人心目中的reputation,那么西北和芝加哥是一样的。当然US News上的Kellogg排名要比Chicago强一些。

从校友网络来说，芝加哥招收的中国人远远多于Kellogg，感觉有4-5倍之多，所以芝加哥的中国校友能给予你的帮助一定会比Kellogg更大。面试我的Kellogg和Chicago GSB的两位校友又碰巧都是自己创业的，风格一个比较tough，一个非常friendly, 不知道这是不是也能反映出两个学校的差别：）

不过Kellogg有一点比较吸引我，就是他们招收的男生都很帅，去年年底北京的见面会上见到的几位在校生，个个都风度翩翩，让我口水直流，呵呵。Chicago的没怎么见过，不太清楚状况，需要作进一步调查。

以上纯属个人意见，希望对你有所帮助

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udream

zixiahu mm, not every Kellogg Chinese is handsome. I knew some friends, who aren't handsome in any standard, but they are nice. BTW, they got to know their wivies during Kellogg study and the girls are really beautiful.

chili

Here are my 2 cents:

Initially, I was planning on applying both schools, but I dropped my GSB application, because of its flexible curriculum. To me, the flexible curriculum is like a double-bladed sword. If you are very sure about what you want to do in the future, GSB could be a good fit, because the flexible curriculum gives you the maximum opportunity to focus on ur interested field. However, if u r not so sure, with Kellogg's general management approach and 1st year's core curriculum, offering extensive exposures to various disciplines, you could explore different industries/functions to make a well-informed decision on ur future career.

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hedonism555

以下是引用udream在2005-4-3 2:40:00的发言：

zixiahu mm, not every Kellogg Chinese is handsome. I knew some friends, who aren't handsome in any standard, but they are nice. BTW, they got to know their wivies during Kellogg study and the girls are really beautiful.

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xilin_

以下是引用janechen在2005-4-3 0:54:00的发言：

I don't think Kellogg in anyway neglects the China region. It's true that it hasn't accepted as many as Chicago GSB has done in the past few years. (I don't have the

那么关于Michigan和Duke 呢，both  are GM/Marketing学校？另外，是否kellogg所有国际学生的比例都在下降？Kellogg以前招收的中国学生不是这么少。

（不是争论，只想探讨一下。）

xilin_

不过Kellogg有一点比较吸引我，就是他们招收的男生都很帅，去年年底北京的见面会上见到的几位在校生，个个都风度翩翩，让我口水直流，呵呵。Chicago的没怎么见过，不太清楚状况，需要作进一步调查。

，强！！

（BTW：这个情况有没有影响到你选择申请哪个学校啊？）

janechen

xilin-

From what I can find on Kellogg (2004-2005 data), 30% of the student body is international. Of those, 24% Asia, 17% South Asia, and the rest... I don't know what differentiate Asian & South Asia. Anyway, 30% total is still pretty high, and I don't know how many Chinese students are actually there. Perhaps the numbers are higher than we thought.

my 0.02 opinion is that both Duke & Michigan are very good GM schools. Duke is pretty strong in marketing as well, based on my pre-application research. Don't know much about Michigan as I didn't apply there.

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h990515

I prefer to choose Kellogg.

marksht2005

芝加哥