OG12 137 平行问题（已解决）

superbat28 · 发表于 2011-7-20 14:44:57

Joachim Raff and Giacomo Meyerbeer are examples of the kind of composer who receives popular acclaim while living, often goes into decline after death, and never regains popularity again.

(A) often goes into decline after death, and never regains popularity again
(B) whose reputation declines after death and never regains its status again
(C) but whose reputation declines after death and never regains its former status
(D) who declines in reputation after death and who never regained popularity again
(E) then has declined in reputation after death and never regained popularity

对于正确选项C，OG给的解释是：This sentense presents the proper logic while maintaining parallel structure ans consistent verb tense.

也就是说句子主体是JR and GM are composer who..., but whose.... OG认为这两个从句是平行的。

可是曼哈顿第四章却讲到，Parallel clauses should start with the same word.
Wrong: I want to retire to a place WHERE I can relax AND THAT has low taxes.
Right: I want to retire to a place WHERE I can relax AND WHERE the taxes are low.

而且那个著名的培训机构也说，从句并列，连接词要是一样的才可以。。

Wait A minute, B选项的解释还有这么一句话:
The two clauses are not parallel, lack a coordinating conjunction, and do not describe the same thing.
莫非，是因为Q137中那两个从句不是说一件事，故平行不用保证相同的连接词？还是什么？

不知道啊~！不知道！求帮助~~

无敌可爱多 · 发表于 2011-7-20 14:49:06

像C这种选项，那个whose可以看做是省略掉的，当然补上也是对的。

而你举例子的那个，where去掉以后会有歧义。

原因就是，C选项中and之后的动词短语没有主语，而曼哈顿那个where 之后是一个完整的主谓结构，可以理解为和i want平行。

无敌可爱多 · 发表于 2011-7-20 14:51:10

另外，平行的时候要结构平行，而不是说主语都要一致。who和whose都是代词，指代同一个人以及这个人的所有格，没有不平行的疑点。

比如 i like pepsi but he likes cocacola, 这么说是没有错误的。

无敌可爱多 · 发表于 2011-7-20 14:54:30

The two clauses are not parallel, lack a coordinating conjunction, and do not describe the same thing.

个人认为这个解释说的是whose和之前没划线的部分。因为根据原句未划线部分推理， composer后面应该是一个并列结构的list,用来修饰composer。也就是XDF说的逗号逗号and结构的平行。

superbat28 · 发表于 2011-7-20 15:33:51

The two clauses are not parallel, lack a coordinating conjunction, and do not describe the same thing.

个人认为这个解释说的是whose和之前没划线的部分。因为根据原句未划线部分推理， composer后面应该是一个并列结构的list,用来修饰composer。也就是XDF说的逗号逗号and结构的平行。

-- by 会员无敌可爱多 (2011/7/20 14:54:30)

总是可爱多姐姐在帮我~哇哈哈。。在这么下去，你没帮一次我，我就去买一个可爱多吃好了。。。哈哈哈哈

我理解你1楼的意思，可是我不是那个问题啦~还米有那么笨~哈。我的意思就是composer who..., but whose ...这个结构和那个例子中place where... ，and where...这两个结构。
而且还有许多关于evidence的题目，都是evidence suggest that..., and that...这类要保证连接词一致。

我感觉，之所以会造成composer who..., but whose...这种结构就是因为B选项所说：These two caluses do not talk about the same thing. 而你像where还有that那个例子，都是在修饰先行词，并描述同一事物，从而要求连接词一致的。

我还需要例子来佐证这个说法到底对不对，目前这个想法是我猜的。。。

不过，谢谢可爱多姐姐！~继续讨论讨论这堆破问题！

superbat28 · 发表于 2011-7-20 18:28:36

up啊！

无敌可爱多 · 发表于 2011-7-20 18:56:57

我还是看不太明白你的问题

你是觉得but有问题？还是whose有问题？还是都有问题？是要求平行严格一致？

我正在抵制联合利华呢~别买可爱多了，哈哈

superbat28 · 发表于 2011-7-20 21:07:31

我还是看不太明白你的问题

你是觉得but有问题？还是whose有问题？还是都有问题？是要求平行严格一致？

我正在抵制联合利华呢~别买可爱多了，哈哈

-- by 会员无敌可爱多 (2011/7/20 18:56:57)

为什么抵制啊~
我组织组织语言……恩。。
且看我刚刚从曼哈顿上摘抄到的一句话：Only clauses starting with the same word should be made parallel.
E.g：A mastodon carcass, which has been thawed only once, AND which is still fresh, is on display.

那这里C选项就是Joachim Raff and Giacomo Meyerbeer are examples of the kind of composer who receives popular acclaim while living, but whose reputation declines after death and never regains its former status.

我就觉得那个who和whose不是same word不能平行啊。。

无敌可爱多 · 发表于 2011-7-20 21:30:44

我还是看不太明白你的问题

你是觉得but有问题？还是whose有问题？还是都有问题？是要求平行严格一致？

我正在抵制联合利华呢~别买可爱多了，哈哈

-- by 会员无敌可爱多 (2011/7/20 18:56:57)

为什么抵制啊~
我组织组织语言……恩。。
且看我刚刚从曼哈顿上摘抄到的一句话：Only clauses starting with the same word should be made parallel.
E.g：A mastodon carcass, which has been thawed only once, AND which is still fresh, is on display.

那这里C选项就是Joachim Raff and Giacomo Meyerbeer are examples of the kind of composer who receives popular acclaim while living, but whose reputation declines after death and never regains its former status.

我就觉得那个who和whose不是same word不能平行啊。。

-- by 会员 superbat28 (2011/7/20 21:07:31)

这个呀，我上面说了的呀，这个指代的都是那个人，不过一个是主格，一个是所有格，但都是他

比如 he ate pizza, and his drink was pepsi.

superbat28 · 发表于 2011-7-21 09:34:16

我还是看不太明白你的问题

你是觉得but有问题？还是whose有问题？还是都有问题？是要求平行严格一致？

我正在抵制联合利华呢~别买可爱多了，哈哈

-- by 会员无敌可爱多 (2011/7/20 18:56:57)

为什么抵制啊~
我组织组织语言……恩。。
且看我刚刚从曼哈顿上摘抄到的一句话：Only clauses starting with the same word should be made parallel.
E.g：A mastodon carcass, which has been thawed only once, AND which is still fresh, is on display.

那这里C选项就是Joachim Raff and Giacomo Meyerbeer are examples of the kind of composer who receives popular acclaim while living, but whose reputation declines after death and never regains its former status.

我就觉得那个who和whose不是same word不能平行啊。。

-- by 会员 superbat28 (2011/7/20 21:07:31)

这个呀，我上面说了的呀，这个指代的都是那个人，不过一个是主格，一个是所有格，但都是他

比如 he ate pizza, and his drink was pepsi.

-- by 会员无敌可爱多 (2011/7/20 21:30:44)

我对这个例子保留态度~我觉得就应该说成he ate pizza, and he drank pepsi. 恩。。

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