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[申请总结] publication对申phd到底可以多重要?

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发表于 2012-3-6 00:26:49 | 只看该作者 回帖奖励 |倒序浏览 |阅读模式
rt请教,先且不谈靠publication申请这事靠不靠谱(太多人说过这是最不靠谱的一条路)。

如果申的时候确有b journal accepted,申management phd,到底可以有多少分量?
background是本科国内前十学校但低gpa,master港校mphil纯research,一路商科上来,三四个international conference proceedings
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沙发
发表于 2012-3-6 00:39:14 | 只看该作者
very important, at least they can find your great research potential.
However, although I also have publications, which are A- and B level journals, and some working papers, I have not got any news from the good schools I applied, only 2 lower tier school interviews. It is so ridiculous and ironic, isn't it?
板凳
发表于 2012-3-6 00:42:27 | 只看该作者
B Journal的话肯定会有点帮助啦,你学校也不错,GPA和GMAT再高点,这背景属于很出彩的了
地板
发表于 2012-3-6 08:27:23 | 只看该作者
我觉得对于tier2的学校还是很make sense的,但是top school根本不会care你的B publication,主要还是看学校GPA和推荐信。
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发表于 2012-3-6 09:41:56 | 只看该作者
严重同意楼上!
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发表于 2012-3-6 15:03:36 | 只看该作者
I do believe have publication CAN be very important even for top schools. However, its importance is highly contingent on other supporting materials. A (B-level) publication CAN be a great signal for your research potential, but it works through other factors. In other words, most of the signaling value that publications carry are the interaction effects.

1. Contribution. Professors discount co-author papers significantly, especially when a) co-authoring with senior, b) your co-author publish extensively in the field, and c) it is a CV filler publication for your co-author. If you cannot show your contribution through other materials, it counts little for top schools, if anything.

2. Letters. Does you co-author write letters for you? If not, it is highly suspicious. If so, does he/she write explicitly your contribution to the paper, especially in terms of the idea? If your recommender says your contribution is limited or mostly RA work, then your publication counts little.

3. Statement. Can you describe your contribution to the paper clearly, and consistently with your reference letter? If there is a big gap between your claim and your co-author, you are in big trouble. Can you describe what you have learned from the project you finished? And how it helps you to become a successful researcher in this field?

4. Presentations and other network. Have you presented your work in major conferences? If not, why? Have you show your work to leading scholars in the field? What are their responses? Building network through presentation is very natural. If you have not done it, it looks bad .

5. Scores. You should have consistent scores on grad-level methodology courses. If you have an analytical paper, a good Game Theory score is expected. Otherwise it looks suspicious.
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 楼主| 发表于 2012-3-6 19:20:42 | 只看该作者
many thanks zzmypster.

It's my own research project, greatly supported by my supervisor. Based on this point, I think your first four questions can be answered in a confident manner. Full support from my other materials, including ps, cv, recommendations, and international conference presentations, can be easily found.

As for your last point, however, my scores for two methodology courses are not convincing enough. one is A. the other one about game theory is only B+. I'll try to fill this gap in other courses.


I do believe have publication CAN be very important even for top schools. However, its importance is highly contingent on other supporting materials. A (B-level) publication CAN be a great signal for your research potential, but it works through other factors. In other words, most of the signaling value that publications carry are the interaction effects.

1. Contribution. Professors discount co-author papers significantly, especially when a) co-authoring with senior, b) your co-author publish extensively in the field, and c) it is a CV filler publication for your co-author. If you cannot show your contribution through other materials, it counts little for top schools, if anything.

2. Letters. Does you co-author write letters for you? If not, it is highly suspicious. If so, does he/she write explicitly your contribution to the paper, especially in terms of the idea? If your recommender says your contribution is limited or mostly RA work, then your publication counts little.

3. Statement. Can you describe your contribution to the paper clearly, and consistently with your reference letter? If there is a big gap between your claim and your co-author, you are in big trouble. Can you describe what you have learned from the project you finished? And how it helps you to become a successful researcher in this field?

4. Presentations and other network. Have you presented your work in major conferences? If not, why? Have you show your work to leading scholars in the field? What are their responses? Building network through presentation is very natural. If you have not done it, it looks bad .

5. Scores. You should have consistent scores on grad-level methodology courses. If you have an analytical paper, a good Game Theory score is expected. Otherwise it looks suspicious.
-- by 会员 zzmypster (2012/3/6 15:03:36)

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 楼主| 发表于 2012-3-6 19:25:18 | 只看该作者
wish you a satisfactory result, zhipei.
have you nailed down your next stop?

very important, at least they can find your great research potential.
However, although I also have publications, which are A- and B level journals, and some working papers, I have not got any news from the good schools I applied, only 2 lower tier school interviews. It is so ridiculous and ironic, isn't it?
-- by 会员 zhipei (2012/3/6 0:39:14)

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发表于 2012-3-6 21:26:41 | 只看该作者
Another caveat is publishing too much on low-tier journals. It could hurt you, at least for top schools. I would rather have a permanent working paper than a 3-tier journal or some kind of unheard conference proceedings. You can easily check it out by looking at the CV of top PhD candidates. If some of them have papers there, it must be a decent outlet. Otherwise I'll think twice before highlighting them in my profile.
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发表于 2012-3-6 22:59:31 | 只看该作者
I have all the positive answers to your questions except that I never went to the conference, that's because both my advisor and co-author professor told me not waste time on conference, the most important is publication.  And as I know, my co-author wrote a pretty good reference letter for me, but he is not a big guy, only assistant professor.



I do believe have publication CAN be very important even for top schools. However, its importance is highly contingent on other supporting materials. A (B-level) publication CAN be a great signal for your research potential, but it works through other factors. In other words, most of the signaling value that publications carry are the interaction effects.

1. Contribution. Professors discount co-author papers significantly, especially when a) co-authoring with senior, b) your co-author publish extensively in the field, and c) it is a CV filler publication for your co-author. If you cannot show your contribution through other materials, it counts little for top schools, if anything.

2. Letters. Does you co-author write letters for you? If not, it is highly suspicious. If so, does he/she write explicitly your contribution to the paper, especially in terms of the idea? If your recommender says your contribution is limited or mostly RA work, then your publication counts little.

3. Statement. Can you describe your contribution to the paper clearly, and consistently with your reference letter? If there is a big gap between your claim and your co-author, you are in big trouble. Can you describe what you have learned from the project you finished? And how it helps you to become a successful researcher in this field?

4. Presentations and other network. Have you presented your work in major conferences? If not, why? Have you show your work to leading scholars in the field? What are their responses? Building network through presentation is very natural. If you have not done it, it looks bad .

5. Scores. You should have consistent scores on grad-level methodology courses. If you have an analytical paper, a good Game Theory score is expected. Otherwise it looks suspicious.
-- by 会员 zzmypster (2012/3/6 15:03:36)


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