og13 SC-105

thesuperleo

Marconi’s conception of the radio was as a substitute for the telephone, a tool for private conversation; instead, it is precisely the opposite, a tool for communicating with a large, public audience.
A. Marconi’s conception of the radio was as a substitute for the telephone, a tool for private conversation; instead, it is
B. Marconi conceived of the radio as a substitute for the telephone, a tool for private conversation, but which is
C. Marconi conceived of the radio as a tool for private conversation that could substitute for the telephone; instead, it has become
D. Marconi conceived of the radio to be a tool for private conversation, a substitute for the telephone, which has become
E. Marconi conceived of the radio to be a substitute for the telephone, a tool for private conversation, other than what it is,


Answer: C

OG上说C选项"An active verb makes the first clause more concise; it in the second clause clearly referers to the radio".
怎么看出c中的instead, it has become这个 it 指的是radio? 前面先行词还有telephone, private conversation啊,为什么it一定指radio?根据就近一致原则,it可能指代telephnoe啊?求助牛牛.

thesuperleo

自己顶一个,大家帮帮忙啊!没有人知道么? >_<  

chongyini

之前这个题也是困惑我很久的，我觉得吧
如果这样Marconi conceived of the radio as a tool that could substitute for the telephone for private conversation，that后面的部分太长所以要后置
来看下面这个题：
OG-13-126
The use of lie detectors is based on the assumption that lying produces emotional reactions in an individual that, in turn, create unconscious physiological responses.
A that, in turn, create unconscious physiological responses
B that creates unconscious physiological responses in turn
C creating, in turn, unconscious physiological responses
D to create, in turn, physiological responses that are unconscious
E who creates unconscious physiological responses in turn
选A，开始我选B,that就指individual，就近原则怎么会有错！可是理解了句子就知道不是这个意思了：lying→reactions→responses
要根据语义。
我觉着有时候做题会陷入一种误区，只凭着就近原则就直接排除选项，这是不对的，一开始我也是很纠结这个问题，it 指代谁也不可能指代radio啊，看到这个解释
“that不一定紧跟所修饰名词，事实上在GMAT考题中确实有一些题选择的就是不直接跟所修饰名词，这不是一个语法范畴的错误，只是说和紧跟的情况相比，没有那么好而已。”

thesuperleo

嗯,从句意看句子Marconi conceived of the radio as a tool for private conversation that could substitute for the telephone; instead, ithas become precisely the opposite, a tool for communicating with a large, public audience. 这个 it 确实是指代radio而不是telephone.你举的例子里的that也是指代emotional reactions而不是an individual. 明白了,谢谢啊亲.   

wsywsywsy

翻译：
M设想无线电会是一种私人交流工具，这个可以替代电话，然而，无线电会恰恰相反，它变成一种大众交流的工具；
句式：
Marconi conceived of the radio as a tool ….; instead, it has become ….
思路：
固定搭配和逻辑表达；
选项：
IT指代conception；
A tool应该修饰radio，但位置上却修饰telephone；But后的which无指代对象；but前后不平行；
正确；
conceived of…to be…用法错误；which修饰telephone，逻辑错误；
conceived of…to be…用法错误；which修饰telephone，逻辑错误；
引申：
Conceive的用法
conceive的固定搭配
(cannot) conceive of (doing) something
conceive that （不用虚拟语气）
conceive of something/somebody as something
conceive what/why/how etc
conceive sth. (such as idea)
2）other than = With the exception of; except (for); besides

thesuperleo

明白了,谢谢版大~

chongyini

thesuperleo 发表于 2013-10-7 09:55
嗯,从句意看句子Marconi conceived of the radio as a tool for private conversation that could substitu ...

刚才看到这个解释：“that作定语从句引导词的时候是就近修饰最好了，但是大前提是不要跳过动词就可以了，这里没有跳过谓语是可以对的。就近修饰是为了避免歧义。”
我觉得很对~

Indigolove

Marconi’s conception of the radio was as a substitute for the telephone, a tool for private conversation; instead, it is precisely the opposite, a tool for communicating with a large, public audience.

A. Marconi’s conception of the radio was as a substitute for the telephone, a tool for private conversation; instead, it is
B. Marconi conceived of the radio as a substitute for the telephone, a tool for private conversation, but which is
C. Marconi conceived of the radio as a tool for private conversation that could substitute for the telephone; instead, it has become
D. Marconi conceived of the radio to be a tool for private conversation, a substitute for the telephone, which has become
E. Marconi conceived of the radio to be a substitute for the telephone, a tool for private conversation, other than what it is,

Let's rewrite this sentence: Miss Sixty's skinny jeans were as a man-made skin that could substitute for the skin; instead, they have become the opposite, a second skin of human beings.

B, D, E are weird, because the using of modifiers like which.
And E I don't it is talking about, so we choose C

zhudanqing

我刚做了2遍OG加总结，感觉是，语义第一，语法次之；有些绝对的语法硬伤错误可用来排除选项。
但是诸如：指代是否产生歧义，时态用什么会更好等等 我觉得要比较选项再斟酌~~~

wlc思语

wsywsywsy 发表于 2013-10-7 11:22
翻译：
M设想无线电会是一种私人交流工具，这个可以替代电话，然而，无线电会恰恰相反，它变成一种大众交流 ...

弱弱的问一句，这里which不可以跳跃修饰tool么？把for private conversation看作介词修饰语，然后tool和ratio又是同位语，所以which不就相当于修饰了ratio么。。。为啥说which无指代对象呀。。。谢谢大神们！求解答！